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post #21 of 47 Old 05-28-2019, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
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@egrogan , I can trade you some fig preserves for pickles! You may not have figs, but you have apples! And sugar maples! And grass!

@ACinATX , fennel is something I would like to try, and it seems we have similar climates (although here we have winter freezes down to -10C/14ºF). Is it difficult to grow from seed? Does it self-seed?
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I've realized is that without putting really intense effort into things and/or using lots of chemicals, there just isn't a lot that will grow well here.
This. I have given up trying to grow things that don't THRIVE on their own (like @egrogan 's indoor/outdoor fig). If it can't take a bit of drought, freezing temps, or cookin' under the sun, then it does not belong in my garden.

Do you let the marjoram self-sow? or do you plant it at different times? it has such a short lifespan here, and I'd love to have majoram longer. I was thinking of trying to sow some every 2 weeks or so? Never tried sorrel; never heard of shiso. You EAT cardoons?

No squirrels or raccoons here, thankfully. Just the dang rabbits.


@Knave , beauuuuutiful photos! I can't beleve you have children - you look like you're 12! Oh, wait - is that your daughter?

Now THAT is a lot of land. Where are you located? What sort of trees are those? Hmmmm… maybe hollyhocks would work here. When did you plant your veg garden?
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I'm doing the Nigella thing of getting up to have a snack at midnight
Wait, whoaaaa. I assum you are not talking about Nigella sativa?

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Woodrow style permaculture mandala
googling now… definitely not W. Wilson. And I know zero about permaculture. Will there be a test later? (HA!)

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Woodrow permaculture chicken dome
Yes, now I have heard it all. This is hysterical. A dome for chickens. Better than a cloche, I suppose. I really need to read up on this Woodrow method - looks simply ingenious. Green hummus? You're speaking my language.

The amount of work you have done in such a short time is mind-boggling. I hope to be able to do half as much once the youngest is off at college. Isn't that sad: having time to produce food once the kids are already grown, instead of benefitting from home-grown food now.

@LoriF , sounds like your koi "tea" would have lots of nutrients for that winter garden.
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That is my twelve year old @Spanish Rider . I will pretend I look so young and fresh. ;) Sometimes I get accused of looking like my oldest’s sister, but sadly that is because she looks 23 instead of 13, unlike her sister who does look 12. We want to put a sign on her when she goes into public “I’m 13” is all it will have to say. Lol

They are simply elm trees for the most part. Like you I believe in growing things that will actually grow, and gave up on big dreams of crazy trees that just kept dying when the temperatures fell. Arbor Day zones can be wrong...

Holly hocks seem to grow everywhere. I like that garden, in the spring it is all tulips and these big purple ball things, and then by summer it is just a huge wall of holly hocks. I do hate the clean up though, and they seem to sprout everywhere.

I haven’t planted the garden yet. We have a very short growing season. It is usually safe to plant on June 1st.

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I'm just getting to this thread, and haven't read all the posts, but just want to say quickly that I am just stunned at how beautiful @SpanishRider's garden is! Wow! you have a gorgeous garden, and from such challenging conditions! very impressive.




Where I live, the soil is rich and water plentiful, though summers are dry. We can grow practically anything as long as it does not need weeks and weeks of heat. My own yard has too much shade to grow vegetables anymore, so I just do flowers. I am in love with Oriental litllies, and tulips. Here are some shots from my yard;


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Speaking of things that grow easily, I love these roses in my yard. I planted them as sticks about six years ago or so, and you can see how they’ve done well! Some don’t care for them, but they are the same type that dislike the elms. ;)

I also love irises and I mentioned tulips.
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Oh wow @tinyliny ! Those are beautiful.
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@egrogan , I can trade you some fig preserves for pickles! You may not have figs, but you have apples! And sugar maples! And grass!

I would gladly send you anything maple and/or apple butter if you want to swap for fig preserves- just let me know
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I have a large garden but due to the late snow and freezing we had mine is not yet full planted. I will get you guys pictures once it is fully planted. This year I am only doing potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, pumpkins, squash, raspberries, strawberries, some assorted flowers and leaks. Onions are so cheap at the store and grow really poorly in my garden so I am just going to buy them this year. Brussel sprouts grow really well for me but they take up a ton of room for what they yield so I won't be doing them this year, besides the organic ones are dirt cheap from Costco anyway. My girls like to grow flowers and sun flowers so I will have a bunch of them as well I am guessing. The sun flowers get fed to the rabbits, they love them. I have tried a lot of stuff over the years like radishes, swiss chard, lettuce of many varieties, beans, peas, beets etc. but this year I am only growing stuff that I know the kids will eat and that grows well up here. I need to add more soil to my garden next year too. I noticed it is getting pretty depleted this year when I dug everything up to plant.
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This is one of my favorite blossom trees because it was nearly dead when we came her and DH wanted to take it out. I spent several days digging out a horrible ground cover evergreen that was depriving it of water and it’s flourished ever since though still smaller than the other flowering crabapples
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@ACinATX , fennel is something I would like to try, and it seems we have similar climates (although here we have winter freezes down to -10C/14ºF). Is it difficult to grow from seed? Does it self-seed?

This. I have given up trying to grow things that don't THRIVE on their own (like @egrogan 's indoor/outdoor fig). If it can't take a bit of drought, freezing temps, or cookin' under the sun, then it does not belong in my garden.

Do you let the marjoram self-sow? or do you plant it at different times? it has such a short lifespan here, and I'd love to have majoram longer. I was thinking of trying to sow some every 2 weeks or so? Never tried sorrel; never heard of shiso. You EAT cardoons?
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I grew the fennel from seedlings, not seeds. But it's not the bulbing (clumping) type, so the only part we can eat is the fronds, and that's more for garnish than cooking. But black swallowtail butterflies love to lay their eggs there. And it does taste good. I don't actually think it self-seeds, now that you mention it, although it does make seeds and they are edible. But every summer when it gets brown and the butterflies leave, I cut it down, and every late winter it comes back, stronger than ever.

The marjoram seeds but doesn't grow from seeds. It keeps trying to take over my garden by sending out runners. I pull them up but then feel guilty about it, so I pot them, grow them into more marjoram, and give it away. It's been out there for several years. It doesn't even die in the winter unless it gets well below freezing.

You eat the stalks of the cardoons, apparently. Supposedly they taste just like artichoke (since they are a related species) but you can eat the whole stalk, whereas with an artichoke you get all of those tough petals that aren't edible. Now that they've gone to flower again, they look really pretty. I guess if I can't eat them, I can at least look at them. I planted them two years ago, and like the fennel they just came back by themselves.

Sorrel is a green that has a lovely lemony taste. You can eat the young leaves in salad or cook the older ones, although they do turn brown when cooked.
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