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#1 ·
Blah.

For those of us who have to suffer thru time change, we Fall Back on Sunday, November 1st.

https://www.timeanddate.com/time/change/usa

I don’t like to use the word “hate” in the literal sense - but - I - HATE - these time changes and always have.

Tennessee voted to do away with the time changes but the Feds have to wave their blessing wand over the idea before it can become a reality:|

I’m retired and I don’t like the change any better than when I worked full time.

The folks who are still working, raising children, and tending to livestock have all my sympathy and empathy.

Stock up on batteries for you head lamps:|
 
#3 ·
Not looking forward to the time change either..wish it would be abolished as it was generated when we had a "oil crisis",...today that is not a issue.


I need every hour after getting in from work to get outdoor chores done, animals fed and me if grilling dinner.
The thought of dark starting before 4:30 is depressing to say the least.
Pitch black by 5:00 is the pits...
My horses I don't think like it much either...means they must come in off the pasture grass sooner so I can lock them in and know they are safe for the night at the barn area.
Sadly, we still have a ongoing horse stealing & slaughter ring working in our state and more dark hours means more time the creeps have to do their killing in...hence my horses are not out on pasture but home inside 4 board plank paddock fences with horse wire also present...going to take some serious effort to cut through all that...
Here goes my hay bill with less grass time too...

Wish we could just get rid of the clock changes once and for all... :|
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#4 ·
Arizona does not have this nonsense. Oregon and most states do. There should be an uprising. How about that for a demonstration?

Since we are both retired we get up when we wake up and go to bed when we feel like it. When I worked in the ICU of a level 1 trauma center we had to be there by 6:30 to take report and it was an hour away. When I was the charge nurse at a dialysis clinic and had to be there by 4:3O AM and it was an hour away. So the time change was pretty brutal. Why did I not work in a local country hospital? Because I wanted to live in the country with my horses but work in a real hospital.
 
#5 ·
Our clocks went back last night.

While it was great to see the light this morning it's already going and it's just after 3.40pm. My internal clock seems to be out though. The day has felt longer and I've been hungry at odd times

Having said that I wouldn't want to get rid of the change. The days are really short this far north and if we didn't move the clocks it would still be dark at 9/10am on a cloudy day and the light would go at around 3.30/4pm.

My horses never bothered as food was food and they came in, or were fed at, the same times, regardless of the light.
 
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#6 ·
I vote for staying on DST year round. As it is I just change horse feeding time from 4:00 pm to 3:00 pm, vise-versa in the spring, so that they are on the same schedule year round.

As silly as I think time change is, it was all kinds of confusing when we didn't and Louisville and some parts of southern Indiana did.
 
#7 ·
I've lived in Arizona my whole life and really don't understand why people change the time at all. The sun is going to do what the sun is going to do. In summer we have light until 8pm (or maybe it's closer to 8:30). In the winter its dark at 5 pm. The clocks stay the same. So I have really never "gotten it."


So is the point to have more daylight in the evening or something?
 
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I don't like the time change either and wish it could stay on DST all year. Apparently during WW11 there was even 2hrs change for DST and this was to save on utilities I think.

I hated when we went back to EST in the fall as I do suffer a bit from SADS and found Nov and Dec dismal depressing months. Going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark to go do chores or go for a ride (in those days I did a lot of night riding) was not something I looked forward to.

One time when I was complaining about going back to EST a friend explained that the main reason was for small children going to school in the dark, better for them to have the extra hour of daylight for walking, bussing to school. as that made sense to me I have stopped complaining.

Now I am retired it's not so bad as I can do my stuff in daylight hours.

As far as the time change it doesn't bother me as I just move the clocks to the new time and go by it and I don't notice much about loosing/gaining an hour.
 
#10 ·
Yes, it's about moving the best hours of light to when it's most useful.

Here we're lucky to get 6 or 7 hours of light during the winter and it's not always usable light, there's many days when room and street lights stay on all day, but, in the summer, it gets darker around 10.30pm and returns around 4am, the sun doesn't go that far below the horizon.

If i remember correctly it was supposed to save energy during the wars and later in the 1970s. It's also for safety but there are studies showing that the dark afternoons cause as many accidents as tired children and adults return home and then go out to other activities.

Some here argue for Single/Double British Summertime (SDST), adjusting the clocks to GMT+1 in the winter, and GMT+2 in the summer.

I still prefer lighter mornings to evenings. Having to travel into work along narrow, twisty roads before joining the main roads, I prefer to have as much natural light as possible to see other drivers. People seem to be less aggressive in the afternoons.
 
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I'm pretty sure you board, so this would not be helpful to you, but I just put up my lights around the riding arena so we can ride after dark. I use string lights which you can get from Home Depot (they call them construction lights and they have little baskets around the bulb) and put them all around the riding arena. It's not perfect, but it works, and it really helps with my mental health in the winter. I even turn them on to clean manure (we use the riding ring as a sacrifice paddock as well) and do lunging and ground work. When there is a lot of snow, my husband clears it with the snowblower so we can ride all winter. I highly recommend this! I'd lose my mind otherwise.
 
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I don't mind it. I am a little strange I guess. A lot of people get a little down with shorter days and colder weather. I am the opposite.

I certainly understand the horse aspects and the effect of less riding and so forth.

Remington hates it. He loses a hour of play time. But that smart guy just tries to start his day earlier
 
#21 ·
I think the changing clocks back an hour is so dumb. Leave the time on daylight savings time.

Honestly I hate winter time ,hate the long dark cold nights. I hate the snow, wish it would never snow again just rain this winter. Could stay above freezing high 40s low 50s.

Pretty much have hated mn for last 3 to 4 years. The land of the frozen tundra. Two seasons here winter and bugs. It's Oct and already winter time with snow.

I just plain hate this time of year don't look forward to the holidays either. Wish they would just be gone as fast as summer goes by. Will be glad when March is here. Can't wait for lousy cold dark worthless winter to be gone.

It was 9 degrees this morning and it's only Oct.
 
#22 ·
Is it your and your husband who make a living off the sea? If not, you need to come to Middle or East Tennessee.

The only non-rideable months here are the late part of June, July, August, and maybe the first part of September. Even then, if you can get up at daybreak, you can still get a ride in.

We have our share of bugs and ticks but it’s easier to dress & spray the horse for that, than it is to dress yourself for below zero and have to cool the horse down afterward.

I’m from the OH/PA border originally, so I know cold to the bone, albeit not as bad as yours. I can count on one hand, nearly every 17 winters I’ve been here, that I would not have been able to ride and those were mostly due to too much ice.

No state tax, no personal property tax unless you’re a business owner:)
 
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#24 ·
I am ok with the time change... I'm hoping it will help me to get up on time! lol I'm a big fan of coming up with the sun so when the sun doesn't come up till 7:30 I tend to run late for work!

Yeah I'm really lucky that I can ride year around, in the hot months just get up earlier or go to the mountains which I did a few times this year. Same thing with the winter, go later or to camping a little further south for a weekend of riding.
 
#28 ·
We have real estate tax, but no personal property tax:)

Having your home paid for is a huge deal:)

The only way I would consider selling, in that case, would be if I could sell the property for a ridiculously high price, and find something nice for an equally ridiculously low price in a more mild year-round climate:):)
 
#30 ·
From a recent NY Times article: "Norway has a concept called friluftsliv, which translates roughly to “open air life.” According to Per Kare Jakobsen, a researcher at the University of Tromso who studies frilufstliv and open-air tourism, “the way Norwegians are brought up with the strong cultural tradition of frilufstliv is key to understanding our (generally quite positive) mind-set.” This means dressing for the weather — from woolen socks and leggings to safety-focused reflective strips on your jacket — and getting outside."

It goes on to describe the three strategies of fruiluftliv. One -- get outside! Dress warmly enough and just go enjoy the beauty of winter. Two -- make winter special. Celebrate the coziness of a wood fire, snuggling up, decorating with winter things, eating and drinking special winter treats. In Norway it is common to have schoolchildren each bring a small log to school so there can be a bonfire made up of everyone's contributions. Three -- focus on what you like about winter. The light on the snow, the chance to work on quiet projects indoors, whatever.

As a Californian, I never truly experienced winter at all, snow was something one drove to (the Sierras) for a ski vacation. Winter was just cloudy wet skies. Here in New England I find snow just glorious. I snowshoe, and when conditions are right I do ride, though I still have no arena and most of the trails are unsafe. Truly, once you are out there in nature it's pretty special. And to come home and lie in front of the roaring wood stove drinking hot cocoa and thinking about how unimaginable this is, in August.

Since we are retired we more or less ignore the stupidity of daylight savings time. I'm on chicken time all year round. When the chickens wake up, it's time to go do chores, and when they're ready for bed, it's time to do chores again. That's it.
 
#31 ·
I'm with @Avna! I guess my family and I have been practicing friluftsliv without knowing it. But yeah, it's not like you can change it, so you might as well embrace winter. We do not stop riding for winter and we get outside every day and do lots of things outdoors. Riding, snowmobiling, snowshoeing, skiiing, sledding, skating... if you're dressed for it, it's quite nice. I even paint outside in the winter! Had to switch back from acrylics to oils so the paint wouldn't freeze, but my best painting memories are of winter scenes. We make maple syrup in late winter and the smell of the sap boiling brings back memories as well.

But daylight savings is annoying. And this year, it will be even worse because of all the doom and gloom. Even more reason to get outside!

And I don't get this "just move" mentality. Home is home. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I've travelled extensively, and this is where I want to live for many reasons. We may not have the best climate, but it's not the worst either. We don't have hurricanes, earthquakes, or any other crazy disasters. We have big snowstorms, but we're used to those, and as long as you're prepared, they're not catastrophic. Not like our house is going to get swept away. It's just fluffy white stuff that goes away eventually. Land is cheap here, and stress is low.

Another winter photo of my big fluffy polar bear who also likes winter. Last photo is from riding at night with my lights. I really think it is a mindset.
 

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#32 ·
I’m an outdoor person and did more than my share of night snowmobiling when I lived where there was snow.

I simply think the time change is asinine and it’s usefulness has long ago fallen by the wayside.

Dairy cows never got the time change memo and need their near exploding bags milked at THIS same hour twice daily.

With modern technology, maybe the time change is no longer an issue for the dairy farmers but it was really rough on my father and our small operation.

Especially when he had to take a job 35 miles from home to make ends meet. He had to get get to work on time and also get the cows milked in a timely fashion while still trying to keep production at a maximum;) twice yearly time change did not do one thing to help that———
 
#33 ·
Absolutely loved learning about the concept of "friluftsliv" - thanks! My husband and I, in some ways, prefer the winter. I agree that as long as you dress for it, it isn't so bad! We are introverts and like to have our dog off leash, so we prefer the quietness of winter on the hiking trails and at the barn. Less people venture out when it's cold, leaving a more peaceful world for us.

Last year I did struggle with severe pain in my hands from the cold despite trying different glove combos, but in another thread several months ago, I got tips on keeping my hands warm, so looking forward to trying those tips out this year!

Regarding riding on ice - sometimes it really feels like an ice skating rink if there isn't snow on top, or if the snow is worn down, and I worry about my pony falling. When she's ready for trails (probably not this year...still working on all that spooking), I was thinking of trying something like easy boots with studs for when it's icy? Just a thought.
 
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@Walkingthewalk just pointed me to this thread. My DH and I just bought a home in the UP and are in the process of moving from Ohio. He's got this new toy loaded up and ready to take. I hope it's enough. View attachment 1017441
Right after a 7 Series John Deere, with bat wings, that’s another toy I wouldn’t mine having —- even if I would never use it:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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