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post #1 of 16 Old 11-11-2017, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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Flapper pads for under run heels?

After months of intermittent lameness in different limbs depending on direction etc. I called the vet out with the assumption that I was looking at joint pain, possible hock/stifle. Vet did full lameness exam and came to the conclusion that his lameness is due to heel pain because his heels are so under run, he's basically walking on his heel bulbs. She recommended shoes all around with leather pads up front.

I did some (maybe too much) research and found "flapper" or "flip flop" pads that supposedly help with under run heel pain. Has anyone used these before? Opinions? I can get photos of his feet if that would help.
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Photos of the feet always can help....

The hoof gurus...the resident professionals would appreciate seeing so they can offer the best information based upon what they are seeing and what is being proposed as a remedy and fix...

I'm sure soon those in the know will be here and help....
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post #3 of 16 Old 11-11-2017, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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Photos of the feet always can help....

The hoof gurus...the resident professionals would appreciate seeing so they can offer the best information based upon what they are seeing and what is being proposed as a remedy and fix...

I'm sure soon those in the know will be here and help....
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I will read, and learn to broaden my knowledge.
I'm going out to the barn in just a bit, I'll grab some decent photos. Hopefully theyre salvageable!
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Yes, pictures please.
Under run heels go hand in hand with stretched forward toes, so any true correction, is going to involve backing up those toes to get those heels back under the horse

https://barehoofcare.com/index.php/h...heals-article/

Here is a very good article on the condition, and management, with the degree of true fix and just management, being determined on how much damage has been done to that back of the foot.
Starting with a trim, to try and get the heels back where they belong, is very important, versus just palliative methods that make the hoof look better, but actually increase damage

Managing a Horse&#39;s Underrun Heels | TheHorse.com

You could send digital pictures to Dr Stephan O Grady, for a consult
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[QUOTE=Smilie;1970419090]Yes, pictures please.
Under run heels go hand in hand with stretched forward toes, so any true correction, is going to involve backing up those toes to get those heels back under the horse

He has always had an issue with "long toe/low heel" I just didn't realize it was so bad, or maybe it wasn't until recently. But my current farrier has taken quite a bit of toe off which I was excited to see because I'm usually disappointed with how long his toes are after trims/shoeings no matter the farrier I use.
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I also have a question about the shoes themselves. I've never been good at talking to my farriers about "what I want" because I really don't know too much about feet and don't want to be the nagging client that googles everything and brings him weird articles. Anyway, this morning I went out on a limb and texted my farrier and just asked "Could we try a flapper/flip flop pad all around instead of steel shoes to help with his heel pain?" and he said yes... So is he going to provide these strange shoes or am I supposed to order them? I don't even know what size my horse wears!
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I also have a question about the shoes themselves. I've never been good at talking to my farriers about "what I want" because I really don't know too much about feet and don't want to be the nagging client that googles everything and brings him weird articles. Anyway, this morning I went out on a limb and texted my farrier and just asked "Could we try a flapper/flip flop pad all around instead of steel shoes to help with his heel pain?" and he said yes.. So is he going to provide these strange shoes or am I supposed to order them? I don't even know what size my horse wears!
Ask your farrier...he is the only one who can answer that question accurately.

Many farriers supply the products they place on hooves and use, but I also know of times when a specific product was needed and seldom used by them that the client {you} was expected to furnish for them...

Text the farrier again and ask him specifically if he will provide or do you and what size do you need to order...

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Continued.. HR (1-3), HL (4-8)

As a side note: he's has pretty ugly fungus on his hind pasterns for the past month or so, I've tried everything I can think of, washing/ not washing (keeping dry), topical meds, a week of SMZ's, topical smz, fungus free, leaving them to breathe naked... Nothing's making any sort of difference good or bad!
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I can't offer much advice on the pads, however I am interested to hear what others have to say, as my mare has a similar issue with her hind feet, though she only wears the outsides of her hind heels out, giving her a perpetual lean (hasn't quite progressed into a rollover yet). As for scratches on the back of the pasterns, that is quite common in horses, especially where they have white skin such as areas with white markings. My old mare has had it in the past when we lived at my parent's, but not since changing properties. Unfortunately, it seems that once it is in an area your horse will be at risk. I've known people to just leave it and let it heal on its own, but I had good success with applying a vet-prescribed ointment and keeping it bandaged along with doing my best to avoid mud & moist areas (which I know can be hard). Some people swear by swat, M.T.G, or even fiebings though

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