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post #71 of 75 Old 08-16-2016, 04:36 PM
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I understand. I was very very antsy about resecting Hondo's seedy toe. One reason it took so long to heal was that I was not aggressive enough. That said, a learner should NOT be aggressive. But anything will help.

I first just used the very small screwdriver on a Leatherman tool to clean out as much of the dead loose stuff as I could. If it's not undamaged, don't worry, it'll take more than a small sharp screwdriver to get the good stuff out.

The infection dies in the presence of oxygen. It's anaerobic. Anything you can do to get more oxygen up in there as often as possible will help. There are differences in opinions on the best treatment but I use Thrush Buster. It seems expensive for the small quantity but it goes a long long way. Need to wear rubber gloves until one develop a method for handling the bottle as it dyes your skin purple.

It will HAVE to be treated sooner or later. Later it will be much worse and if never treated it will ruin your horse. I forgot the name of a recent thread where an attempt to rescue a horse was too late. Foot infection had gotten to the coffin bone and the horse had to be put down.

The infection is at least 3/4" up into the hoof now and quite possibly 1 inch. Seedy toe is insidious!
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post #72 of 75 Old 08-17-2016, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by amgThoroughbreds View Post
If I knew what I was doing I would try to trim it myself, but I don't want to take a chance of screwing it up. Whenever I mention the toe, no one seems concerned. Both the trimmer and farrier acknowledged that the seedy toe was there, but did nothing.
Sigh! So because you don't know better, you're paying people who are screwing it up. Yeah, unfortunately, that's why so many of us learned better & started looking after our own in the first place. You're in a very common situation, sadly. If you're not going to learn to do it yourself, you need to find a professional who knows what they're doing... which means you need to learn enough for yourself to at least know what that entails... so there's no better option to doing your homework, regardless of whether you ultimately trim him too. Check out the thread link in my signature to start you off there.

And check out the other link for what is needed for good critique pics. I can see that stuff isn't quite right in the trim dept, but can't give you accurate specifics without better pics. In the meantime tho, I'll tell you what I do see in those pics...
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Attached is your pic showing *approximately* where 'breakover' should be. Look again at Trinity's lines drawn on your horse's hooves, and go to the ELPO website, to learn the why's & wherefores of this. You can see how much excess toe there is. Everything in front of that point should be bevelled. Without doing this, the mechanics are just working against the foot, putting extra leverage on the long toes, stretching laminae and allowing the seedy toe in. My (very average) diagram shows you, side-on what I mean by bevelling. The red shows where the existing toe is, the green line where the dorsal wall should be, and where the breakover should be in relation to it, and the blue line is how the toe needs to be bevelled, which will allow it to grow down without strain, to become well attached.

In addition, heels look a bit long & forward, and bars, esp on the foot I drew on, look like they've been forgotten, overdue for a trim.

If you put conventional rim shoes on these feet, it will further exacerbate the mechanical issues, put further strain on the toe wall(& other areas strained by long toes, inc navicular region). They will also cover up the area with the seedy, making it harder to treat. I wouldn't be shoeing this horse with rims until her feet can become healthy. But if you do, use *properly applied* shoes which put breakover back where is should be and relieve the toes, such as 'natural balance' or some such. I'd also ensure the hooves had adequate sole/frog support.
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Do you want to just fly to Florida? I'll pay for a plane ticket lol. I'm really trying here, but its hard when you are on your own and everyone else thinks you are crazy for worrying about hooves so much. The farrier I am using now is the most experienced and respected in the area (and unfortunately most expensive). For now he is my only choice. I will speak to him about all of these concerns again when he comes out next week. If there is no improvement, I'll go ahead and try to make improvements myself. I have a farrier supply store nearby, what are some basic tools I should buy?
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post #75 of 75 Old 08-17-2016, 02:56 PM
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Regarding just the seedy toe: I used a small Hall's resect loop knife on Hondo's seedy toe. If I were doing one that small or one as small as your horse's, I'd buy and abscess loop knife which is even smaller.

If it were my horse, I'd use the abscess loop knife to clean out everything that looked infected and treat at least once with Thrush Buster. Then I'd soak in Ramey's dilute Lysol solution (1/4 cup concentrate to 1 gallon water) everyday for thirty minutes for a week (after cleaning). Then depending on how clean I could keep it, I might go as long as 30 minutes once per week.

I would continue treating until there was no visible signs of the infection left. No black, just a tight white line.

It addition to tools, and probably before tools, if you haven't already, you might want to begin educating yourself.

Here is a post I made this morning with some good info.

I'll stand aside while loosie advises you on tools and trimming.

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