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post #1 of 11 Old 10-28-2018, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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How are her feet??

I've been through three different farriers this year due to bad work on my younger standardbred and am taking a closer look at my older mare now. She's had oval shaped feet for the past year and a half that I've owned her, she's pigeon toed but she's 24 years old so obviously won't be corrected now. I'm wondering what everyone's opinion on the angles and shape of her feet are? My personal opinion is they are too short and her toes are too long but I don't know?

The sole photos in order are her front left, back left, back right, then front right.
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-28-2018, 05:58 PM
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In my opinion her hoes are stretched and the bars are a little smushed. I'm trimming 2 horses with stretched toes and it's a battle. The side view pictures, the last 2, it looks like the bones aren't where they should be... @loosie is the best help though
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post #3 of 11 Old 10-28-2018, 06:07 PM
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She's as cute as can be, I'm so fond of seniors 🙂
She seems to have very different feet from the right side to the left. One side has more substance, very interesting.

I lost track of which foot I was looking at, but there seems to be an unaddressed flair.

It might be on the pigeon toed fronts, but the curve of the hoof at the heel looks like it's nicely wide on the lateral side, but really curves in on the medial side of the hoof. I don't know if this can be better addressed or if it is at it's best already.

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post #4 of 11 Old 10-28-2018, 07:00 PM
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Her fores are very oval aren't they? They look like hinds. Hard to say just from those pics, without clean feet, let alone not freshly trimmed, but I do think toes look a little bit stretched. H/p axis looks a tad 'broken forward' in fronts. I think it looks like the frogs may be stretched too, which is kind of disguising it. Heels *may* be a tad long & forward. I'd probably just map the feet properly as per ELPO, bevel/roll the toes & otherwise keep them as is.

'Pigeon toes' can be labled as such because some farrier has trimmed the outsides shorter than insides, or the inside has been left flared. In that case, they can be corrected. But true pigeon toes are due to the fore feet being slightly turned in. This can be from anywhere up the leg. It's a leg thing - or at least, in the fetlock joints, not a hoof trimming thing. To attempt to 'correct' this, esp if only by trimming hooves, at whatever the age, is cosmetic only & can just put stress on the joints by trying to force them straight.
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Her feet arenít horrible, a little more thickness would do her nicely, as they might be a bit weak. She is a very pretty girl though!
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post #6 of 11 Old 11-17-2018, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Does anyone think her heels are a bit contracted? That's what I keep thinking. Can her toe not come bacl more (this is her left front). Also that line in the quarter has been there for 2 years so probably was damage to the coronary band? I'm trying to learn enough to do my own trims since I've not been happy with my farriers.
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1. She is a very pretty mare with a soft and kind eye:)

2. The vertical scar on the hoof may never go away. One of my horses still has a raised scar like that from being run tnru the fence when he was five years old, he is now 23. His scar is raised enough it can be filed down.

3. Agree her toes are stretched and frogs appear to have stretched forward. I could have been misinformed but I was taught the frog should extend only a distance of 2/3rds of the hoof. If that is true, her frogs are too far forward.

4. Contracted heels: in the first pic where you ask that question, I think a more clear picture might be in order; I can't tell what I'm looking at:)

The second pic yes, the heel looks a bit contracted. However, if she has been barefoot for a year or more that contraction likely will not improve too much, if at all. At least that is what the lameness vet said about one of my horses.

5. While the hooves do need a good cleaning for better evaluation, I'm pretty sure I see thrush in the frogs and possibly white line disease (WLD) on some areas of the whitelines.

6. If she is able to W/T/C sound, I am surprised as her hooves don't look like she is comfortable enough to do much of any kind of work:(

My disclaimer is that I am not a professional farrier but I have trimmed my own horses much of my life and unfortunately know way more about hoof issues than I want to know, thanks to my foundered horse.

His was a severe founder that I thought might cost him his life. He is still here six years later. He's a happy fella and more sound than I ever expected he would be but he has a plethora of issues -- seems when one thing gets resolved, there is something else -- which is how I know about some of the things I think I'm seeing on your mare:)

I would also add that diet is a critical factor in overall hoof health, as is her living environment. Both can be factors where thrush and WLD are concerned:)
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Yes, as said, I do think toes are a bit stretched - yeah that second pic shows frogs look stretched too & heels are contracted. Interesting pigmentation patterns on the sole too!
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Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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Ill share this just for interest purposes this was that foot 2 years ago. The top photo is when she was trailered to me and I was disappointed they allowed her feet to get like that. She was off and on lame for at least 2 months on this foot and I had to keep her in a boot to keep dirt out of the hole!
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post #10 of 11 Old 11-18-2018, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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