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post #1 of 7 Old 11-03-2016, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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https://www.hoofhelponline.com/ The Welz Method?

Has anyone been to/seen https://www.hoofhelponline.com/ ?

I was on facebook the other day looking for info on boots for Ori and someone highly suggested I check out this site. So I did. I don't know how I feel about it though? It seems like they leave the bars overgrown and heels too far forward? His "theory" for doing so is to make a larger landing area for the back of the hoof.

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I'm trying to get Orianna's feet in better shape so they fit boots better. I've been studying ELPO a ton but I found this site interesting. Its very different.
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I did have a subscription to their on line Hoof magazine, but have not studied their trimming in depth, nor do I know all their mentors, but I believe they include Strazzer
I do recall that their trim for a foundered horse, is more 'aggressive' in the toes area, but will go and have another look, to refresh my memory
Far as their magazine, it is worthwhile, as it has lots of barefoot news, latest hoof boots, stories of high performance barefoot horses, and just lots of general good information, regarding horses,and esp their feet
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I quickly looked at some of those articles, and the one that really hit me, was on heel trimming, and 'turnaround point/heel platform
I hope Trinity and Loosie will comment
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Hmm, I've been waiting for others who may know more about them to comment. I really don't know much about them. I haven't had a look into their 'methods' since they were very much Strasser followers. It seems they have moved far away from that 'model'... not a bad thing at all IMO. I do think that it very much depends on environment as to what specifics may be 'ideal' for a horse, what specifics can be gotten away with. And I don't profess to know enough from just those couple of articles, about their specifics,

Ditto Smilie about the heel comments tho. Yes, of the few articles I looked at, the heel and bar trimming - or, it seems, lack of, really got me too. Some of them look good, from what can be told, but some of them... I think it's suffice to say that if I left horses like that, I'd expect more & more 'run forward' heels & bars. And abscesses around the bar/heel area because of added pressures there. IOW, LESS sound, comfortable horses. While I absolutely believe keeping toes short is vital, I don't tend to 'back up' toes vertically like that, but rather bevel & round from underneath. And on healthy feet(depends how flared as to how much of a 'roll' may be helpful too), I would not be doing such an 'aggressive' roll. But that is also very dependent on the surface the horse must work on too. The rougher/harder the terrain, the stronger a 'mustang roll' the horse tends to need, IME.
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Thanks for replying!

I was wondering about the heels/bars as well. In some examples the heels looked so run forward, while some looked pretty nice. I feel like a lot of his examples the to angle and heel angle don't match either.

I've been studying ELPO for awhile now then someone suggested this to me. It really threw me off because its so different.
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$20 per month? It's free here. And there's a ton of free info from both Ramey and Ovnicek. And for $200 one year subscription you can get a bunch of videos from Gene and Pete.

Heck, at $30 every six weeks you could almost get a years trimming for that money.
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Oh I'm not paying $20 a month for it. I was just interested to hear opinions since it seems so different :) I did do the free trial and watch a bunch of the videos though, to try and understand better why hes trimming the heels/bars as he is and such a big roll on the toe.
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