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post #41 of 45 Old 10-28-2018, 09:26 PM Thread Starter
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@loosie I didn't know suggesting bute for the pain was bad. Around my area a lot of people have it on hand for emergencies and such
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post #42 of 45 Old 10-28-2018, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckyGold View Post
This may or may not be worth mentioning but a few months ago both his hind hooves had a half inch of red in his toe callus. It didn't quite look like a bruise. More solid red. I didn't touch them at all and they were not sore. Went away by the next trim
That is due to a past(hopefully) laminitis 'event'. That you only noticed it for a short time & it was able to be trimmed out next go, it was likely a short term 'event'.
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post #43 of 45 Old 10-28-2018, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by loosie View Post
Yeah, be it 'just' mechanical or systemic laminitis, I have not found this in healthy footed horses either, only in stretched & very thin soled feet. Except for heavy horses.... but then again, I haven't seen it in healthy heavy hooves for a looong time, so perhaps perception was the issue back then & I hadn't recognised fully what was going on with those....

TBH, I can't actually recall hearing anything specific on that front. I must ask some of my cronies! I have taken it that the hooves need more support under P3 & would strongly consider leaving the 'bar material' in that area but padding the feet, to more evenly load the rest of the sole & frog comfortably, without undue pressure on that bit.
Funny you should bring up the thoughts in your second paragraph

Awhile back, I was hesitant to try the farrier's suggestion of glue-on shoes and liquid packing. I put Joker back in boots, instead and I am kicking myself for that mess-up on my part ( "mess" is not the word I want to use:(

Two weeks ago she put Joker in a model of Natural Balance shoes. She glued them on but also put two nails in each shoe for security. She filled the hooves (both fronts) with vettec's Equithane CS (copper Sulfate). It took 1-3/4 tubes to fill both hooves.

I am mind boggled at the 300% improvement in how well Joker moves. While this type of hoof pack is supposed to help the soul regenerate, I'm not holding out hope, as Joker's founder was severe. The credible articles I've read seem to think cases like Joker will never have hooves like they once had, there's just too much damage inside.

This venture isn't cheap either. My farrier only charged me cost to do the work and that was $144, plus $40 to trim all fours. I paid her more than that. I've seen comments on other forums of the price running $250 - $350 just for the fronts.

I'm not sure how many times this kind of hoof rehab can be repeated before it becomes counter-productive, if the soles don't regenerate. That's a conversation we will have when the farrier comes back.

Back to Chance.. Having seen this same "bruising" under Joker's bars, I agree it would be best to leave the bars serve as padding, in this instance, and also somehow pad the hooves with a type of strong & flexible padding inside boots.
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post #44 of 45 Old 10-28-2018, 11:31 PM Thread Starter
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@loosie I'll find a farrier to help or replace me for chance. I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood when you " I'd also put a slight bevel on the toe, from right back at/near the breakover point, turning it into a strong roll when you hit the laminae, so the toe wall is completely relieved". What part of the above quote did I do wrong?
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post #45 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 01:11 AM
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^I suppose you mean you took what I said as dub the toes? It's not clear what you mean. Anyway, with regard to the above comment you quoted, this is my way of explaining how to address the breakover. If you don't understand the hows & whys of this, I STRONGLY suggest you at least learn that, before trimming any hoof. Especially if it's not your own horse. Especially if you are asking for money for trimming. As said, lamenessprevention.org is a great source of info. Go study it a few times at least. But there is really no replacement for hands on learning. I'd suggest you find a good mentor.
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