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post #1 of 11 Old 08-20-2012, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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Question is my farrier telling me the truth?

i have a horse and his two back hooves are barefoot. the last time the farrier came it seems he has cut my gelding's back hooves too short because he has been in pain >:( so i called my farrier and he told me that my gelding is sore because is hooves weren't touching the ground as much when the hoof wall was longer and now that he shortened it my geldings hooves are sore and you can't actually trim hooves too short.

is this true because it sounds like baloney and like he is trying to say the hoof wall is too short; just in 'fancier' words.
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post #2 of 11 Old 08-20-2012, 05:30 PM
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Time for a new farrier. There is definitely such a thing as trimming too short and making a horse sore.

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post #3 of 11 Old 08-20-2012, 06:04 PM
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I would get a new one also, but I would have already been thinking about it, since I will not use a farrier, vet, trainer that I do not trust 100%. If I have my doubts, they are gone.

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post #4 of 11 Old 08-20-2012, 06:46 PM
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... and you can't actually trim hooves too short.
Yikes! Trimming too short in the toe or heel can easily make a horse sore.
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post #5 of 11 Old 08-20-2012, 09:37 PM Thread Starter
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hm thats what i thought, thank you for your reassurance/ knowledge on hooves! :)
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post #6 of 11 Old 08-21-2012, 03:30 AM
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Hmm, trying to be objective here... Yes, absolutely you can trim hooves too short & I would say that the majority of time where a horse is sore after a trim, it's a mistake or such on the part of the trimmer. Especially if you pare into the sole.

You could say though, that if you only trimmed wall & stopped short of trimming into sole, that you can't then trim too short. IF the farrier only touched the walls and they had been let to get too long, suspending the foot off the ground, then yes, a good trim without going too far could still cause a horse to be sensitive. If the horse has developed 'low grade' laminitis or such, they can possibly be tender after a *good* trim, especially if they've been allowed to get too long in the meantime.

So.... I wouldn't just jump to blaming him without more info, but it does sound worth a lot more consideration.
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post #7 of 11 Old 08-21-2012, 03:45 AM
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I have always believed a horse should never come up sore after a trimming. You wouldn't buy new shoes that are too small and pinch, so we wouldn't expect our horses feet to be sore then 'harden up' in a week or so.

I wouldn't feel happy letting a farrier who made my horse sore do her feet again. I don't want my horse sore, and its a pain in the butt not being able to ride her regulally- very energetic horsey!

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post #8 of 11 Old 08-21-2012, 08:36 AM
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and you can't actually trim hooves too short.
Wow, ditto it's time for a new farrier, and to whap this one alongside the head with his own rasp.

Please read my post #4 on this thread.

https://www.horseforum.com/hoof-care/...d-mare-135135/


While my story is an extreme as to what a short hoof can cause, I am reading more and more about horses being sore right after a trim. My story is an example of what can happen if the horse continues to be cut too short.

The solution is to leave the hooves just a tad longer and schedule the trims a week earlier.

I am sorry but a horse should NEVER be sore right after trim.

My story, sadly, is real. To-date I have around $1,500 tied up in this horse for the vet visit, ultrasounds, x-rays and on-going medical supplies. Then there's the hours of time expended to re-do his wraps and boot him every day. I have three other horses that get neglected because I am wore out by the time I get this guy tended to - and he's a piece of cake to work with every day.

It's a good thing I am done hard trail riding because he will never be able to be used for much more than taking my niece on a 15 minute hack when she comes to visit --- IF he will ever be able to do that.

Please try to find someone smarter; you may have to call your vet and ask for recommendations but your current farrier is pretty much worthless.

I think my new mission statement has gone from raising awareness of metabolic issues to raising awareness of farriers & trimmers that have no business being in the profession.
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post #9 of 11 Old 08-21-2012, 08:40 AM
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you very deffinatly can trim a hoof too short.

A good farrier or trimmer should NEVER make a horse sore.
If the feet are over long and need shortening that drasticly then it should be done over several visits.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

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post #10 of 11 Old 08-21-2012, 10:59 AM
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You could say though, that if you only trimmed wall & stopped short of trimming into sole, that you can't then trim too short. IF the farrier only touched the walls and they had been let to get too long, suspending the foot off the ground, then yes, a good trim without going too far could still cause a horse to be sensitive. If the horse has developed 'low grade' laminitis or such, they can possibly be tender after a *good* trim, especially if they've been allowed to get too long in the meantime.

So.... I wouldn't just jump to blaming him without more info, but it does sound worth a lot more consideration.
I agree with loosie.

OP - how long have you used this farrier? Have you had this horse for a while? What is the turnout like? Hard, wet, etc?

I agree they can take too much off and make them sore but I do also know there can be a whole basket of things that factor in to a horse being sore after a trim when it never has before.
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