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post #1 of 19 Old 06-05-2018, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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"My horse doesn't need to be trimmed yet"

If your horses are starving or are overweight and you do nothing about it it's animal cruelty. If you are too lazy to trim your horses at LEAST once every 3 months and the lack of trimming has led to overgrown hooves or founder it is animal neglect. If you cannot afford to feed or trim your horse, sell them. They don't need to suffer for your lack of care.

These hooves belong to a sweet pony who arrived at my boarding facility 2 months ago. I have not seen the owner come out once ither than to pay board. Both me and the boarding manager are very aware of just how bad his hooves are. He has really bad retained sole, about half an inch thick. I don't know what else to say because of how bad they look. He doesn't appear tender, but if his owner ever decides to trim him i won't be surprised if he limps on all fours. I texted and offered my trimming services to her, even for half off just because i didn't want to tiss her off for saying her horse has bad feet. She said "No I just had them trimmed professionally on April 28th. He did have rotation he will be trimmed next week as scheduled. You are not expirenced enough to trim my horses feet. Thank you."
Take a look at his fronts..
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post #2 of 19 Old 06-05-2018, 05:38 PM
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Well quite obviously if they were trimmed end of April, the trimmer is charging for nothing at all, but what can you do if the owner refuses help? One has to draw a line somewhere on how much we push our opinions on someone.

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I guess I'm more defensive over neglected animals because of how much animal cops Houston i watched as a kid rather than cartoons. At least he is getting trimmed, at least they say he is. Ok but april 28th? For being "professionally trimmed" almost a month and a half ago that's almost an inch of excess hoof wall. I know we can't force people to trim their horses but that doesn't mean i can't bite my tongue and nice and calmly offer help. Sigh... Some people shouldn't own animals. He should've been trimmed when he first arrived...
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My question to you is where do you as owner of the facility draw the line on care and neglect?


You as owner of the facility are ultimately responsible for the care of the animals on your property, owned by others or not.
I know where property owners ended up in front of a judge when they had not stepped in to correct a neglect/abusive.cruelty situation that was taking place on their land...
If the animals were starving local officials would be banging on your door...
So can neglectful care have authorities looking right at you...
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post #5 of 19 Old 06-05-2018, 06:09 PM
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I don't think two months is nowhere near being a long time not being trimmed, but only if the hooves have been trimmed correctly before. His most certainly hasn't been. I like keeping them very short and round as well.

You were very kind to offer, but I'm afraid there is nothing much you can do, if somebody does come to trim them.
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Wait the week and see what sort of job the trimmer does. The fact that she paid the trimmer makes them a 'professional' just as you are if you charge for a trim.

I have many times cut my father's hair (he didn't have a lot) does that make me a barber or a hairdresser? Think not.
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post #7 of 19 Old 06-05-2018, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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@horselovinguy I'm not the owner of this horse or of the property. The property owner/board manager has been asking the pony's owner to get him ttimmed and he even suggested me do the trimming. It is a wait and see game, but i agree the hooves don't look like they were trimmed properly given how much there is to trim. If they don't get trimmed in the week I'll discuss it with the board manager

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post #8 of 19 Old 06-05-2018, 07:47 PM Thread Starter
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Here's a pic of the other side of his fronts that didn't get uploaded earlier
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Kind of looks like founder? @loosie

My thoughts are two-fold. One is regarding your business in this. Do you work for the barn or board your horse there? You call it "My boarding facility" which sounds like you are the owner.

The thing is, if a horse is on a persons property and is neglected on that property, and there is someone on that property caring for that horse, then I believe the person is liable because they know the abuse is happening.

I have a simple-minded neighbor. (He is in his early 70's and has been tested at the 12 year old level and has a guardian that lives across the street). Anyhow, he has a relative that put a kennel up in his backyard. The relatives often take advantage of him. These dogs will go days, even weeks without food or water. I think there was a dead one in the kennel once. The guy that put them there thinks they hunt better hungry. ANYHOW - the animal control has been called several times. The simple-minded property owner is the one who has gotten in trouble over it. Becuase they are on his land and he knows the condition they are in.

The barn manager should probably get the feet taken care of and add it to the monthly board. I know many places that tell owners, you have to have the horse shod or feet done or de-wormer and if you don't do it on this schedule, then we will do it for you and charge you. Obviously they should check the legalities on it but posting pictures on a forum and moaning about it isn't taking action.
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The barn manager should probably get the feet taken care of and add it to the monthly board. I know many places that tell owners, you have to have the horse shod or feet done or de-wormer and if you don't do it on this schedule, then we will do it for you and charge you. Obviously they should check the legalities on it but posting pictures on a forum and moaning about it isn't taking action.
Honestly, I'd agree with this. The place I'm at now told me this when I came and, as it was the first real full care barn I'd been at I was like "ok sure, makes sense... but I'm neurotic about doing stuff on time coming from partial care or self care barns." I've kept up to date on everything and she's never needed to step in and have someone take care of something I should have done. Now, personally, if you cant take care of your horse you shouldn't have it. Just IMO...

But the horse needs its feet done, regardless, as soon as possible. Someone needs to take care of it, the horse cant just ring the farrier itself. I'd say if the owners farrier comes and does a trash job (or doesn't show up at all), the BO/BM should mention to the owner that if the horses feet don't start looking better they will be calling someone to help the horses hooves and it will be charged to the owner with their board.

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