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post #1 of 20 Old 11-11-2016, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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Quarter flare

Trouble has always flared on one foot. His next trim is tomorrow and I've noticed the flare is back. Again. It was evened out and balanced last trim but it's back! I understand flares are the wall separating, and I've done lots of research on flares, but I couldn't find why he would very flaring like this. His white line doesn't, however, look to be stretched. It's strange. What could be causing this flare? Pictures coming up!
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This is NOT a serious photo, by any means, but the phones not taking pictures properly right now so I used one that's a few weeks old that was already on my phone. The flares keep popping up on the outside of the hoof, and his front left gets one on the inside as well. These are corrected with every trim, but keep coming back. The toe is nice, the hoof is balanced according to ELPO hoof mapping every trim. Something has to be happening. The pink shows the general area the flares occur.
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Sometimes, some horses just have funky growing feet. It may be that the flares on his feet, just ARE and will need trimming and balancing every time.

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it could be the way he travels
Remember on the corformation thread, how I asked you if he traveled true, and for better front end shots.?
That might explain as to why he has those flares, due to the way he loads those feet"

'Base-Narrow This describes horses whose feet are closer together at the ground than the origin of the limbs at the chest when examining the horse from the front. This is a common fault noted in large-chested horses such as Quarter Horses. This defect causes a horse to bear weight unevenly
If you could post pictures, of his front end
, stood sqaure, itmight give aclue as to why those flares develope
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Hi.
I am no expert by any means and my experience is limited to my own horse and a few others.


Maybe he needs to be trimmed more frequently than he is. I know some horses that are fine waiting 6 weeks between trims, and then there is my horse, who if I let go for 6 weeks she would be flared and very unbalanced. My horse I have to have done every 4 weeks and occasionally every 3 weeks. All depends on how much hoof she grows,


I am sure someone else with more knowledge will offer their advice.
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Awaiting better pics, including of the whole horse squarely from in front, as Smiley suggested. The pic you attached, can't tell, & whether outside your pink lines is actually a flare, or it's just the angle of the foot. Horses are naturally steeper on the insides generally.
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If it is an actual flare, and it looks to be from the picture, then there is a separation of the wall from P3. That cannot be corrected in a trim but must be grown down from where the separation starts down to the bottom. One inch up would mean about four months to grow down.

During that time there will be mechanical stresses that will tend to keep the flare going. The mechanical stresses can be reduced by rolling back to the inner wall and reducing the outer part of the flare down to the inner wall. This weakens the wall which lets it flex some and thereby reducing the mechanical stress even more. This is the reason Gene Ovnicek dresses flares from the top. Not for looks but to reduce mechanical stress while the flare is growing out from the top or starting point.
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^1" per 4 months might be an average but depends very much on hoof health, nutrition, etc. My horses all generally take about 10 months to grow out an entire capsule.
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^1" per 4 months might be an average but depends very much on hoof health, nutrition, etc. My horses all generally take about 10 months to grow out an entire capsule.
Yeah, I was just talking round numbers as compared to wall separation being "fixed" in one or two trims.

As an added note, it seems to me that toe flares caused by long toe underrun heels wind up with the toe flare wrapping around the quarters. Seems like the under run heels shoving the sole forward also puts some pressure on the quarters.

"Seems" is the operative word here.
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