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post #1 of 29 Old 01-14-2020, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Crazy Boarder Recording Audio

So, at my barn there's this woman who is just nuts. She's done many just not that smart things and is incredibly judgmental. Anyways, she has a camera in her geldings stall that records audio and video. She's done this without anyones consent and it makes me very uncomfortable. She'll go home and listen to the audio to see if anyones talking about her. She'll talk to her horse through the camera and it'll follow you if you walk by it. The barn owners have said she can't record audio and she says she doesnt but we all know she does. I was just wondering the best course of action. I wanted to call the non emergency police and make an anonymous report on her. I live in New York....Anyone else have any other ideas?
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post #2 of 29 Old 01-14-2020, 05:52 PM
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That's a bit extreme of her. Yikes. Did she actually say she's going home and listening to it for those reasons...? Sounds like a bit of a control freak! Can any of you tell the BO's again? They are the ones who need to have a talk with her, especially if they don't allow that.

Let them see the camera & go from there. Not sure if the police would really do anything. I'd let the BO's handle it, & let them know you are uncomfortable, because she is in fact actually recording (even though she told them she's not). Maybe if you get enough people to tell the BO, they will stop it.

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If it's against the barn owner's policy, then the barn owner needs to deal with it. You can ask her to do so but I doubt it will go anywhere. I'm pretty sure the police wouldn't do anything about it.

If my horses were stalled, I'd love to have a camera in there. It would be nice to be able to check on them.

If you're not saying anything bad, why do you care if she's recording what you say? And if you are saying things that are bad, this could encourage you stop, which is a good thing. If it were me I'd just ignore the whole thing. Who cares if she has a camera in there?
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Today with technology being as it is that you can be hundreds of miles away and see what is being delivered to your house door...not unheard of.
So she wants to know what is going on...

See, I would probably go the opposite direction knowing she is watching, listening and play with her.
Walk past and bid her good to the camera, not like looking at it but include in conversation...
"So Mary you heard about the earthquakes in Puerto Rico, and thought I heard upstate NY had one now too..." and babble on.

And agree, if you aren't speaking badly of her...who cares?
On the other hand...her "spying" and listening in also assures someone is listening when no one is possibly around and could hear trouble happening and alerting others to it before disastrous...
Use her having it and listening to your advantage..
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I would be uncomfortable... what about bringing in a portable radio while you are there and leave it playing right near the camera?
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post #6 of 29 Old 01-14-2020, 08:35 PM
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What she is doing is against the law in most states. You cannot record video/audio without a persons consent. She is not the owner of the facility so it's not a surveillance system that is set up for security reasons. You have every right to report it.
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post #7 of 29 Old 01-15-2020, 03:05 AM
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I agree with HLG except I would stand there and talk about an awkward barn member without using names. If she made any comment on this then she is admitting she is listening in.
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post #8 of 29 Old 01-15-2020, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by farmpony84 View Post
What she is doing is against the law in most states. You cannot record video/audio without a persons consent. She is not the owner of the facility so it's not a surveillance system that is set up for security reasons. You have every right to report it.
I don't think that is correct. I think that recording without someone's knowledge may be against the law, but not without their consent. Businesses record security footage all the time and people don't have to consent to that. Individuals have security cameras on their properties as well.
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post #9 of 29 Old 01-15-2020, 08:25 AM
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From what I understand And I don't know how it applies in other areas but here the camera has to be recording public space for the no consent to count. If there is a camera on your property and it records the road or surrounding space that is considered public then you have no need to inform BUT you must have notice that your property is being recorded and IF your camera captures another person's property you have to have their consent. You cannot point your camera intentionally to cover their property without their knowledge. A retail bushiness is not public but it's nature is and they have to notify you there is surveillance on the property recording. A barn that allows boarders is not public and the BO would have to set policy for her barn. That said there still has to be written notice on the stall door and the camera would only be allowed to capture what is in the stall unless the BO specifically allows it to capture other areas and then her property (that is affected) would have to have published notification. Audio is specifically restricted in some states without consent and there are stronger laws in some states for that to prevent misuse. Some states (or counties) you have to register your equipment if it covers a public area others offer a registration and with your permission will connect your video to their stream. This would be offered for neighboorhood watch groups and the like in some places.

You do have your rights and letting the BOP know your discomfort should be the first thing you do. Then you move your animal if you find it that offensive or you adapt.

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post #10 of 29 Old 01-15-2020, 08:37 AM
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Ignore it. Yes, she's a bit nuts to go to this extreme, but it's not your barn, so it's the BO's problem. Just don't say anything about her or her horse in the barn. Probably not a bad policy to avoid talking about other boarders anyway. I don't think you should have an expectation of privacy in the aisles of a boarding facility you don't own.

She can claim that the video and audio are there to monitor her horse, and that conversations captured are accidental. Who cares? Certainly don't bring the police into it.

The whole situation indicates to me that there are some issues among boarders and that alone would make me want to leave.
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