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post #1 of 34 Old 01-30-2015, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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PET PEEVE: Feeding 'scoops' vs pounds

I am a strict by the pound feeder of grain. (not so much with hay, though I have a scale)
But when a barn or person says scoop or can, I of course wonder what is there version of scoop/can?
I do know in most of my feeds, a regular size red folgers can is three pounds and the larger size holds four pounds.
So am I to assume (hate that word...lol) that when they say a scoop or can, that they are feeding three pounds?

What is the average amount your boarding barn feeds your horses? And mention if its once or twice a day, per feeding or split into two feedings.
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post #2 of 34 Old 01-30-2015, 05:44 PM
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When I switched feeds I took the new feed to work, weighted out the proper amount on the postage scale, and dumped the weighted feed into my feed scoop and marked it.
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post #3 of 34 Old 01-30-2015, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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I have my scale in the barn set to where when the folger can is sitting on it, its at zero. So then it only shows me how many pounds of grain I am feeding.
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post #4 of 34 Old 01-30-2015, 05:55 PM
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I'm the same way with weighing my feed. I used to do evening feed at my boarding barn and they used Folger's coffee cans as a scoop, too (but they have the old metal ones which have convenient seams every 1/4 unit up the sides). For the senior feed (which was a custom mix by a local mill) it was pretty much 1 lb for each quarter increment (so 4 lbs for a full can) but other feeds varied sometimes quite significantly. Beet pulp pellets were more like 5 lbs, and oats closer to 3, for example. The 'average' horse got 1/2 can of senior feed twice a day, but there was a lot of variation.

I'm at a different barn now and I provide my own feed, weighed at home with a kitchen scale and bagged for each day's feeding so I know my horse is getting the same amount every time.
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Ah well... I can see this being important when a horse is in training or has health issues, but for joe-blow people like me, it truly doesn't matter. My horse gets her 1 cup or 1 1/2 cups of oats every day and her bale (or so) of hay every day. Every bale is a different size due to different suppliers and one of them being inept at baling. I just judge it. If all the hay is gone from yesterday and it's winter, she gets 1-1/2 bales today. If the bales are roughly the same size. If today's bales are smaller she'd get two. If larger than only one.

In the summer, on grazing, who weighs the grass?
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When I have to write out instructions for feeding when I have to be gone, I've already weighed what I want fed. So a small Folgers can which is actually only 10.3 oz of coffee, is very close to a pound of my pellets. I try to convert everything so when I say a scoop of pellets 2X a day I know how much they're getting.

What people forget is that different feeds have different density and so a "scoop" will weigh out differently.

Aaaahhhh, the internationally accepted, scientifically proven, inter lingually spoken method of measurement..... the coffee can.
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When I have to write out instructions for feeding when I have to be gone, I've already weighed what I want fed. So a small Folgers can which is actually only 10.3 oz of coffee, is very close to a pound of my pellets. I try to convert everything so when I say a scoop of pellets 2X a day I know how much they're getting.

What people forget is that different feeds have different density and so a "scoop" will weigh out differently.

Aaaahhhh, the internationally accepted, scientifically proven, inter lingually spoken method of measurement..... the coffee can.
When I leave and have my non-horsey son to feed for me, I have enough folger cans and lids that I just fix the proper ration in that and set each one on top of the hay they get for that feeding. They are perfect for that.
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I don't feed my gelding grain, but my best friend grains her three horses. She is a "scoop" feeder and it drives me up the wall. Especially since my "scoop" might not be as full as her "scoop" or vice versa. It doesn't really matter since her horses aren't performance horses and only get the grain to help them maintain weight, but it still drives me batty.

If I ever do decide to grain my gelding, I've already told my BO that I will provide his grain already weighed/measured out. lol
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Yup, the scoop or 'quart' method drives me up the wall. Especially if someone is asking for help on what to feed their horse, but it is what it is and I've got a chart (somewhere in my pile of papers) that has the weight of each feed per quart, so that does help me figure things out sometimes.

Another pet peeve of mine is seeing/ hearing someone say they wormed their horses. (I'm a VA so it just bugs the daylights out of me) it's dewormed. Wormed implies you've put worms into your horse, not removed them! (Ok deworming rant over, LOL)
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post #10 of 34 Old 02-02-2015, 08:43 PM
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You know, while feeding my horse the other day, I thought of the whole scoop size thing. Yes, we all have different sizes of scoops that we have or have not weighed/measured accurately. Some people mentioned that even using the same size of scoop, we might feed different amounts. My coffee can is completely full, your coffee can is 3/4 full, his coffee can is "mostly" full... If I don't use a full "scoop" size, I draw a line with a marker, but if its a bit over or a bit under, I don't care. Even my "one cup" of oats for my mare is anywhere from 1 acutal, measured cup to almost 2 cups. There are lines on my scoop, but meh - even *I* don't stick to it. If I scoop it and it comes up over a cup, then she gets over a cup that day.

What I wonder is, in the grand scheme of things - just how much does this matter? Last week, my friend told me to give a scoop of feed to her mare. So I dipped the scoop, came up full and fed it to her. The scoop is about 4 cups. If we both use a full scoop of the same scoop - just how far out can we really be and how much does 1/4 or 1/2 cup difference matter to an 1100 lb animal?

I can see an effect on special situations, or special very intensive feeds, but generally???
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