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post #11 of 17 Old 01-10-2014, 02:58 AM
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For color you could get a number of things going on, You could get a foal that has the pinto patturn, but graus out eventually because it has the varnish gene. Is the stud tested? If he is homozygous for tobiano you will get a toby patturn. He also has something else going on there? splash maybe?
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post #12 of 17 Old 01-10-2014, 05:25 AM
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Don't breed just for colour ;)
If you are looking for colour might I suggest buying a foal that's already on the ground. Then you get what you want without risking your mare.
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post #13 of 17 Old 01-10-2014, 09:03 AM
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Sounds like the mare is already bred & the OP intends to keep the foal. She is just wondering what to expect colorwise. And that could be just about anything! Good Luck w/your new foal!
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post #14 of 17 Old 01-10-2014, 10:23 AM
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both patterns mostly paint in the front and appy in the back but i dot expect that because she is not blanketed but a varish
Appy color genetics are some of the most unpredictable and least understood. I have seen a varnish roan mare(born chestnut with a star) produce a leopard and two foals with loud blankets, the first two out of a few spot stallion, the third a solid AQHA chestnut stud. I have a Filly out of a very loud stallion, high white stockings a blaze and a full gorgeous blanket, and she is very, very slowly varnishing out. Genetics are fun.
People have bred selectively for hundreds of years to get each of these patterns, I think its a real shame to cross them. More often than not I find if the resulting foal has both patterns, it looks less attractive than if it had just one. you can end up with both patterns, no pattern, one or the other, a gorgeous paint that varnish roans out, or any other possible combination.

HOWEVER, if the mare and stallion are both nicely built and good minded, you have a good chance of getting a nice horse that suits your needs. Color doesn't really matter anyways.
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No good horse is a bad colour :)

Unless grey/white....then you need shares in shampoo companies.

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post #16 of 17 Old 01-11-2014, 12:42 AM
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Appy's are vary odd when it comes to color. I have a friend who bred a snowflake dun appy to a solid black quarter horse. She got a very LOUD bay blanketed appy. Different scenario. I used to lease a very loud buckskin appy, she was bred to a dark bay stud, resulting foal was a palomino. Don't expect loud just because that parents have the color. And just because parents don't have color doesn't mean they won't produce it.
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post #17 of 17 Old 01-11-2014, 09:14 PM
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OP, there is a website called the Coat Color Calculator that can give you a very, very basic idea, if you want to play around a little - it by no means is 100% accurate because there are so many factors at play. Just by looking quickly at your pictures, I guessed that he is Black Tobiano (at least, he could carry multiple pinto genes). I guessed her to be Bay, although it's tough to really tell for sure, and the only option I had for her pattern is Appaloosa. Of course, didn't know if either are hetero or homozygous for any of their colours or patterns. Results below. You have a possibility for pretty much anything. I know this isn't necessarily accurate, but it's still kind of fun to play around with.

17.58% -Bay Tobiano
17.58% -Bay Pintaloosa
17.58% -Bay Appaloosa
17.58% -Bay
5.86% -Black Tobiano
5.86% -Black Pintaloosa
5.86% -Black Appaloosa
5.86% -Black
1.56% -Chestnut Tobiano
1.56% -Chestnut Pintaloosa
1.56% -Chestnut Appaloosa
1.56% -Chestnut
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