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post #1 of 7 Old 08-26-2014, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy AQHA Registry Help

I need help!

I bought a 2010 filly last fall. The girl I bought her from had signed registration and transfer papers all filled out from the breeder/previous owner. I sent them in to AQHA, and it turns out the dam is registered but not DNA-typed. So, from what I understand - my new filly cannot be registered until the dam is DNA-typed, even though she is registered?

I contacted the dam's previous owners, and they said they took the dam and my filly as a pair to the Billings Livestock Sale where they were sold in 2010. The girl I bought my filly from said there was no mare at the sale, only the filly. So somehow they got separated. The dam was a 2007, so not that old. I'm hoping she didn't go for slaughter.

Billings Livestock Sale has no records of either horses because they sold loose and not in a catalog sale. AQHA records on the dam haven't been updated since 2008, so no current owner information is available.

My little filly has turned into a great horse, and I would like to breed her for myself, but I will not do it unless I can keep them registered. I would like to get my filly registered either way. Do you guys think I'm completely out of luck? Any suggestions? This is my first experience with registered horses. So frustrated!!!
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post #2 of 7 Old 08-28-2014, 10:15 AM
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Your best bet is to work with the AQHA, but if they require DNA typing on the mare and you can't find her, you essentially have a grade filly on you hands.
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You bought a horse on a breeders certificate. VERY bad idea, especially when dealing with auction grade stock. Chances are unless you can find the dams owner and dangle enough money to motivate them to get the DNA done you are out of luck. You are the owner of a grade horse. You may still find out that the breeders report either wasn't done or has a hold on it for a stud fee etc. I register all my stock before selling it. A signed and completed transfer report goes with it and I expect the new owner to register the animal within 90 days. Any problems after that you are sol with me , I will not reissue anything
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I need help!

I bought a 2010 filly last fall. The girl I bought her from had signed registration and transfer papers all filled out from the breeder/previous owner. I sent them in to AQHA, and it turns out the dam is registered but not DNA-typed. So, from what I understand - my new filly cannot be registered until the dam is DNA-typed, even though she is registered?

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This is what AQHA has published on that matter. Your horse is over 48 months.

Check out the list below to see if your horse needs to be DNA typed or parentage verified: DNA typing is required if:
Parentage verification is required if:
  • Your horse’s sire or dam was under the age of 2 at the time a foal was conceived.
  • Your horse was the result of embryo/oocyte transfer.
  • Your horse was conceived by the use of frozen semen or cooled semen that was transported.
  • Your horse is more than 48 months of age at the time the application for registration is received by AQHA.
  • Your horse’s dam was exposed to more than one stallion within a 30-day time period.
  • Your horse has excessive white markings, as specified in Rule REG109.8.
  • Your horse is foaled after January 1, 2007, and is a descendant of the stallion Impressive 0767246 (see Rule REG109.3.3).
  • Your horse is going to be raced.
  • Your weanling is going to be entered into an AQHA world championship show.
  • The AQHA Executive Committee deems parentage verification is necessary.
If your horse qualifies under one of the stipulations listed above, or if you just plain want to have the DNA test done, download a genetic testing order form, or contact AQHA Customer Service to order a kit by phone with a debit or credit card. Current fees for genetic testing are $50 for a registered horse and $40 for a test that is ordered on a registration application for a foal.
Genetic Testing Points to Know
  • Genetic testing only needs to be performed once in a horse’s lifetime.
  • A horse cannot be parentage verified if his sire and dam are not both DNA typed.
  • AQHA automatically parentage verifies horses that are eligible and reprints the certificate of registration once parentage verification is complete.
Five-Panel Genetic Disease Test
AQHA offers a genetic disease five-panel test that tests for hyperkalemic periodic paralysis, polysaccharide storage myopathy, hereditary equine regional dermal asthenia, malignant hyperthermia and glycogen branching enzyme deficiency.
All stallions having 25 or more mares on their 2014 stallion breeding report are required to have a genetic disease panel test on file with AQHA prior to the registration of their foals resulting from breeding’s occurring after January 1, 2014. Additionally, all stallions are required to have a genetic disease panel test on file with AQHA prior to the registration of their foals resulting from breeding’s occurring after January 1, 2015.
The genetic disease tests are $85 for AQHA members and $125 for nonmembers. For the panel test in conjunction with the DNA test required for most breeding stock, the cost is $105 for members and $145 for nonmembers. Learn more about AQHA’s five-panel genetic test.
So, if you think about the opportunity science has given us, you’ll see us coming to a road where all American Quarter Horses are verified and all American Quarter Horses have been genetically tested and have their ‘fingerprints’ on file. The next time you purchase an American Quarter Horse and notice that the markings don’t quite match the certificate, think of what DNA testing can do to resolve your fear and worries about the true identity of that horse.
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Unless you find the mare you are out of luck. Even if you do you have to get the new owner to agree. You volunteering to pay for the test may help if you do find her. It may not. Some people are funny about things like DNA testing and microchipping. Her records would have to be updated as well with the new owner listed I would think. That will also involve costs as she was sold so long ago.
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post #6 of 7 Old 08-30-2014, 11:21 AM
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You have a grade horse. Certainly not the end of the world.
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You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!
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post #7 of 7 Old 09-02-2014, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, BugZapper89. I agree with you - if one is breeding registered stock, they should register it themselves before they sell! That would have prevented all of this. The breeder told me they had asked that the pair be sold together originally because they KNEW the dam needed to be DNA-typed before her foal could be registered. I guess this will just be a learning experience - I didn't know what a "Breeder's Certificate" was.

I don't have anything against grade horses. I own a couple mustangs and some other mutts who are all great. I just think breed registries increase the value of horses and also helps maintain breed integrity. If a horse is able to be registered, it should be registered.

I suppose I'll just have to wait it out. Maybe the new owner of the mare (if she's not on a plate in France somewhere) just hasn't gotten around to turning in her transfer papers, yet...
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