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post #11 of 16 Old 03-14-2019, 02:36 PM
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There is a study done in 2014 looking at a variety of stats, including birth weights and insulin resistance. The study can be read here. It did show there were some differences depending on the size of the dam, but the study didn't follow the foals to adulthood to see if those differences eventually normalized in time.


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This pony gelding is half Arab...the other half was a miniature horse. Where there’s a will there’s a way! Lol

Which parent was the Arab and which was the miniature horse? To me it looks like an overgrown miniature (if that makes sense). It's very cute!! Not too small so older kids could still ride, but not too tall to make smaller, less experienced, kids nervous.
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There is a study done in 2014 looking at a variety of stats, including birth weights and insulin resistance. The study can be read here. It did show there were some differences depending on the size of the dam, but the study didn't follow the foals to adulthood to see if those differences eventually normalized in time.
With all of our mares, the foals that were a result of the Suffolk Punch on welsh mares and the foals my ex-boss bred from a 15 hand welsh x TB lightweight mare using Irish Draught stallions the foals were all born to the size of the mare. In the case of the ones using mares that had a lot of pony blood the full grown offspring were all 15 hand (never taller) standard cobs or lightweight cobs.
The offspring from our little TB mare all grew to at least 16.2, one made 17 hands and her last foal to a 14.2 welsh D made 16.2.
Our welsh/arabian x TB mare only produced one offspring that was 16.2 full grown and that was when she was put to a Trakhener stallion. Her other foals were all 15.2 'sturdy types'
We had a mare that was by a Cleveland Bay stallion x TB mare that was 15.2 and built like a sturdy TB
We had a mare that was by a TB stallion x Cleveland bay mare that was 16.3 and looked more like a pure Cleveland Bay
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the foals were all born to the size of the mare.
I agree this has been my experience as well, and it makes sense as having a foal too big for natural birth doesn't continue the species very well.


What I found fascinating about the study I linked was the fact that the in utero environment seems to have an effect above and beyond "just" genetics. I would not have been surprised to hear a pony foal would be more prone to IR, but to read a saddlebred foal carried by a pony mare also had an increased risk was fascinating. Just goes to show we still don't fully understand the role of hormones, etc in development.
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the foals were all born to the size of the mare.

I just saw the most adorable yearling filly for sale. Mom is a 32 inch Mini and dad is a 15h Peruvian


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Which parent was the Arab and which was the miniature horse? To me it looks like an overgrown miniature (if that makes sense). It's very cute!! Not too small so older kids could still ride, but not too tall to make smaller, less experienced, kids nervous.
Mom was the mini. He was 12hh and downright dainty. I recently sold a Welsh/Shetland that was only 11hh but was build like a brick house and I felt more comfortable riding him for tune-ups than the taller guy. I would have kept him if he wasn’t so dang mean to my mares. I might breed my Shetland mare to a Welsh to get a similar pony.
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