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Horse colors when breeding

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#1 ·
I have a quarterhorse that is brown with a black maine and tail and I'm getting ready to breed her with a black and with over paint. What are the different color possibilities?
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Ok first I am going to say this as nice as I can. If you do not know that the first horse is called bay and the second is a black and white Pinto/paint then you might want to rethink breeding.

Next what color you will get will depend on certain things. If the horses are homozygous or heterozygous
 
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So I misspelled a couple words and don't know excat names for colors of horses. That doesn't mean anything. That was just rude.
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Ha she was any thing but rude per your postings imo you sound like a child who has no business breeding horses.
 
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If you don't even know proper horse colors, you're hardly qualified to be breeding them.

NRHA is a breeder and knows of what she speaks. Calling her rude will get you nowhere around here, especially since she was trying to be as nice as possible because you're a noob. :?
 
#5 ·
It was not rude and it has nothing to do with miss spelling of words. It has more to do with the fact that color NAMES are so very basic. Like in math color names are like 1+1=2 is basic math where breeding is more like Calculus. Not all that hard once you learn the basics but if you do not know the basics then it becomes very very hard.

So my advice before you start thinking about breeding learn all you can about it including the names of the different color of horses. Breeding is not something that should be done lightly. There are just too many horses out there that need homes to bring anouther average horse into the mix.
 
#7 ·
Then you need to give us all the info. There are so many possibilities if you do not know the horses status.
 
#9 ·
The overo stallion is his horse, he's training my bay but is going to breed the two because my horse is 17 and has old injuries from a previous owner and ge feels the best thing for her is to have a purpose in life so he's breeding her. He's only trainging her because she thinks she's boss over people because no one showed her different.
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The overo stallion is his horse, he's training my bay but is going to breed the two because my horse is 17 and has old injuries from a previous owner and ge feels the best thing for her is to have a purpose in life so he's breeding her. He's only trainging her because she thinks she's boss over people because no one showed her different.
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First question. Is this your mares first foal? 17 is getting up there especially for a maiden mare. Breeding is not a purpose for a horse. Giving her something to do is not a good reason to breed. It will also not teach her who's boss. It will in fact only make it worse.

Have your mare trained and enjoy riding her. Do not breed her. From what you are telling me here all these things are the wrong reason to be breeding.

As for Homozygous and Heterozygous. Homozygous means that there are 2 pair of the same gene. Heterozygous means there is one of each. Which gives you many more possibility. With out knowing this there are many possibility.
 
#11 ·
Okay, you really need to talk to your trainer if what you are saying is true. He's wanting to breed a 17 year old mare that may or may not be a maiden because she is unsound to be ridden and he thinks she needs a "purpose"? Not to mention the fact that this horse has attitude problems.

Did he mention to you that breeding her at this age greatly increases her risk of death due to complications with the pregnancy and birth?
Are either of these horses registered?
Has the mare ever been ridden and/or shown successfully (before her "injuries")?
Have the mare and stud been tested for genetic diseases like HYPP and HERDA?
What, exactly, is your plan for the foal?
Will the trainer keep it?
Will it be yours?
Are you planning to sell it?
What happens if it is born with a deformity or illness that requires a significant amount of money to take care of and leaves the foal unable to be ridden?
What happens if you lose your mare during birth and are left with a bottle foal to raise?
Are you or the trainer prepared for the added costs that come with a normal, healthy pregnancy?
Are you both prepared (emotionally and financially) for the event that something goes wrong where you lose the mare and/or foal after spending thousands trying to save their lives?

There is a lot more to consider than "wat color will baybee be" when you are considering breeding a mare.

Frankly, the fact that you don't even know what color the horses are and the fact that your "trainer" wants to breed a crippled mare that is 17 years old just because she needs a "purpose" doesn't speak very highly of either of you. I am more understanding of you since you seem to be very inexperienced in the horse world and are just going by what your trainer says. However, if he is any kind of real trainer at all, then he should know better than to suggest this ridiculous idea.

Has he even discussed the added cost and severe risk to your mare that this breeding would incur?
 
#13 ·
First of all, be expecting some major grief over this topic entirely.

Homozygous - guarantees the foal will get one of the genes
Heterozygous - is a 50/50 shot of the horse getting the gene
"the gene" could be color, pattern, etc.

So the ONLY reason this mare is being bred is because there's nothing else that can be done with her? What's her confirmation like? The stallions? Do either of them have show records? Are they registered? Is she a maiden mare (if so 17 is fairly late for a first foal)?


EDIT: Wow I got beat a couple times. But all very logical questions. Who will be keeping the foal? You're sending the mare to a trainer for ground manner issues so who will be training the foal? Please don't assume because foals are smaller that they are easier to train/handle! What's the foals "purpose" going to be? Will it be registered?
 
#15 ·
She's not crippled but he doesn't want her ridden too much or too hard because he doesn't want her to one day fall with me on her. And she doesn't have an attitude just wants her way more than other times. He's a very qualified trainer and I trust that he knows what he's doing. Everyone in the county and area that knows him recommends him.
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#16 ·
She's not crippled but he doesn't want her ridden too much or too hard because he doesn't want her to one day fall with me on her. And she doesn't have an attitude just wants her way more than other times. He's a very qualified trainer and I trust that he knows what he's doing. Everyone in the county and area that knows him recommends him.
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You skipped basically every question that was asked...

"Trusting" your trainer is not enough to make an uninformed decision that can and quite possibly will result in the death of your mare!
 
#18 ·
I'm fairly uneducated when it comes to genetics and breeding, but I would not consider this man a "very qualified trainer". If there is the possibility that she could one day fall on you :)shock:) from being ridden to hard, she sure as heck isn't capable of carrying the extra weight of a foal for 11 months.
 
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