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post #21 of 31 Old 04-14-2020, 04:30 PM
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Whoa!! She is way to far on for an ultra sound.

The vet needs to feel inside her to feel the foal.

I still say she is pregnant.

My late boss spent thousands of pounds on stud fees for the mares. They were scanned at the stud at 14 days and then again at 42 days then they came home.

Most TB studs have the agreement that if they are not still in foal by end of September then the second half of the fee is not paid or, a free return the following year.

I had a vet come to examine the mares towards the end of September. He insisted on ultrasounding them and not manually feeling. Said only two of the five were pregnant, turned out the three that weren't were and one of those positive wasn't.

Changed veterinary practise after that.
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But she was palpated as well Foxhunter.



Good the vet noticed the fluid. Even when you think you have good quality hay it may not be enough for a given horse. Or their system is holding on to it to extract every possible nutrient which to me says they still need over and above in some way. Not calories but nutrient density. If her feed has changed drastically that could also account for the milk. Feeds high in phytoestrogens can wreak havoc on a system. And then there is the chance she lost one if she was carrying and her body did not recognize the loss.



Hope you get it all figured out. Sounds like she made a soft landing and will be well taken care of no matter the outcome.
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Whoa!! She is way to far on for an ultra sound.

The vet needs to feel inside her to feel the foal.

I still say she is pregnant.

My late boss spent thousands of pounds on stud fees for the mares. They were scanned at the stud at 14 days and then again at 42 days then they came home.

Most TB studs have the agreement that if they are not still in foal by end of September then the second half of the fee is not paid or, a free return the following year.

I had a vet come to examine the mares towards the end of September. He insisted on ultrasounding them and not manually feeling. Said only two of the five were pregnant, turned out the three that weren't were and one of those positive wasn't.

Changed veterinary practise after that.
She did palpate her as well, she said she couldn’t get as deep as she wanted to but said she was holding the uterus in her hand and that she’s not in foal. I suppose if I go out there one morning and there’s a baby out there then we’ll know she was wrong lol though I have to admit I hope the vet was right as I had lots of plans for Roxy this Spring/Summer.
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But she was palpated as well Foxhunter.



Good the vet noticed the fluid. Even when you think you have good quality hay it may not be enough for a given horse. Or their system is holding on to it to extract every possible nutrient which to me says they still need over and above in some way. Not calories but nutrient density. If her feed has changed drastically that could also account for the milk. Feeds high in phytoestrogens can wreak havoc on a system. And then there is the chance she lost one if she was carrying and her body did not recognize the loss.



Hope you get it all figured out. Sounds like she made a soft landing and will be well taken care of no matter the outcome.
Thank you for all the great information! And yes she is definitely in a safe and loving home.
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A friend of mine picked up 2 mares at the auction several years ago. One was said to possibly be pregnant. Vet said she was had the other checked to be sure and vet said no. "Pregnant" mare grew and even produced milk but never had a foal - false pregnancy. The "not pregnant" one - well - that's how I got my boy almost 15 years ago!
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A friend of mine picked up 2 mares at the auction several years ago. One was said to possibly be pregnant. Vet said she was had the other checked to be sure and vet said no. "Pregnant" mare grew and even produced milk but never had a foal - false pregnancy. The "not pregnant" one - well - that's how I got my boy almost 15 years ago!
Lol that’s quite the experience! I’m assuming Roxy is having a false pregnancy.
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yes also to being pregnant.
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yes also to being pregnant.
According to the vet check she isn’t, and as much as I don’t want to doubt the vet (she is, after all, the professional and I am not!) but I still have my suspicions about her. I suppose time will tell!
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Perhaps she is not pregnant but had a foal before you got her?

I have a mare with a big belly- I even thought she might be pregnant. Took a tape around her belly and compared it with my other mare. They both were the same measurement so then i knew she probably wasn't pregnant.
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Hi again, just wondering if any of you have been through something like this and have any advice or tips? The vet said Roxy is not in foal, but her udder is continuing to get bigger. Her belly is also getting bigger but she is not putting on weight anywhere else. I am in frequent contact with the vet and so far we are just keeping an eye on things. The udder picture was taken tonight. It seems to be bigger in the mornings but there is no heat or apparent tenderness. The vet asked me to see if she has anything come out of them and with minimal effort “milk” comes out. It’s quite watery, slightly cloudy and ever so slightly sticky. If any of you have any experience with this I would greatly appreciate your advice.
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