I have a 14.1 Spotted saddle horse/pony I would like to breed to my Gypsy Cross male, but I am concerned that he may be too large for her. Right now he's almost 2, but already 14 hands. We expect him to mature to be 15.1-16.1 hands (not sure though). He is 1/2 Gypsy Vanner, 1/4 friesian, and 1/4 paint. He's pretty stocky. The mare is petite but round if that makes sense with long legs. She's very fat and round but has a slender body. Just like to get your opinions. We're thinking about breeding them in a few weeks.
it would be both horse's first breeding/foal. I know that can make a difference. I have read that mare's first foals will often be born smaller. I just want to get your thoughts/opinions. I want to pasture breed them.
As I understand this, you wish to breed your pony mare ((Whose breed doesn't seem to be overly common?)), to a mongrel
of a stallion? Gypsy Vanners and Friesians have been "fad" breeds for the last decade, the Paint isn't even remotely similar in body type so I'm baffled as to why someone would breed one to either of those breeds in the first place.
I'm sure that your stallion is cute though, quite hairy too I'm sure.
But why create yet another
grade horse? A second generation grade horse no less! Yes, I am aware of the old saying "You can't ride papers". But in this day and age, a horse having a pedigree increases marketability. You can usually resell a papered horse for more money and have an easier time doing so than if you were trying to sell an unpapered horse.
Look, the horse market had the bottom fall out of it back in 2007. Things are better now then they were then, but the market has never quite managed to recover. Breeding pedigree horses is a money losing business, breeding grade horses is only moreso.
And don't tell me "Oh I never intend to sell this foal, it'll stay with forever and forever more!".
You can't guarantee that. No one can. Life happens. Death can occur suddenly, unexpectedly and at any time. Half of all marriages end in divorce. Natural disasters can and do destroy whole lives in a moment. I could go on and on, but I hope that I've made my point. You can't predict the future and personal situations change everyday. Perhaps right now
you could look after this potential foal for the foreseeable future, but what about five years from now? Ten? Twenty? Horses live a long time and are only living longer!
And very few people manage to look after their horse from birth to death.
So my advice to you is this:-
1.) Geld the stallion, he doesn't need to be reproducing.
2.) Buy a foal that's already on the ground. You can pick up many a colorful youngster cheaply at the nearest livestock auction or via your local Craigslist page. Look into nearby horse rescues if that's your thing.
3.) If you insist on breeding the mare, at the very least breed her to a quality stallion of her own breed. Don't skimp on pre-breeding and pregnancy care. Be prepared to make hard decisions if the birth has complications or if the foal has an unexpected health problem/birth defect. Train the resulting foal up once it's mature. Make sure that it has good manners on the ground, discourage vices and that it knows how to walk, trot and canter under saddle at the very least. A well trained horse is a marketable horse!