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post #1 of 21 Old 08-10-2019, 12:19 AM Thread Starter
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Friesian/Andalusian questions

Hey everyone. So I recently put a horse up for sale and I had a response with a lady wondering if Iíd do a partial trade and she was offering a friesian cross Andalusian mare. At this point, I donít know if I will do the trade.

Sheís 2 years old, stands around 15 hh and is expected to mature between 15.2 - 16 or 17 hh. She is registered and has 2 months in saddle training already as well. I also absolutely love her colour but I naturally have a weakness for greys.


So I was just wondering what your guys experience has been with this breed. Iíve heard good things of friesians but not much. Would you think she could be good for jumping at all? I can see her as being quite beautiful in dressage. But ya, any info you have about this breed Iíd love to hear.
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I can't tell you anything about those breeds but I highly advise not to do a trade. I don't know if it's a funky picture angle or what but that mare looks like she has very big lump on her chest. From what I've seen when people want to do a trade it's because their horse is either crazy, lame or old.
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post #3 of 21 Old 08-10-2019, 01:42 AM Thread Starter
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I can't tell you anything about those breeds but I highly advise not to do a trade. I don't know if it's a funky picture angle or what but that mare looks like she has very big lump on her chest. From what I've seen when people want to do a trade it's because their horse is either crazy, lame or old.
I didnít even notice that at first, thanks for pointing it out. I wonder a bit if itís just the angle since I saw a video of this girl and there wasnít a lump noticible. But I wouldnít get her without seeing her in person anyway. And for the reasons youíve mentioned, I havenít decided on the trade. She said itís because the horse is too young for her elderly friend to handle.
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The " lump" is her breastbone. I've seen this in some Fresians. It looks odd, but is not a problem.

I wish people would not breed two such disparate breeds. The Andalusian is bred for agility and collecting ability and high leg action. They are sensitive often hot horses that can require patience to get the best from. They mature much later than many other breeds, both physically and mentally.

Fresians are originally bred to be fancy cart horses. They are more docile but can also be quite stubborn and strong willed. They mature relatively quickly and while they have fancy leg action, are not what I'd call agile.

To me, it's an odd combination. But . . . The horse might be a great dressage partner, with a lot of work. Just consider that she may take quite a long time to mature and may truly try your patience Of course, any horse can do that, but this combo is just that much more likely to.
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Neither is a jumping breed at all, so I would never get this horse expecting to jump much with it. Dressage is possible but these are also not modern dressage competition breeds. I have a problem with Frisians in general but it depends a lot on what type of Frisian the parent was.

I love dark grays too, but I also remember that most of their lives they are going to be "white", not "gray". White with melanomas, like as not. I would also want to see some real, posed, on hard ground, side and back and front conformation pics, and some video at a trot and canter, before I even made the effort to go see her.

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I have never seen a lump on the breast bone just because they are friesian. That looks like something but it could just be that moment in time like some kind of bug bite, kick from another horse or whatever if I'm looking at the same thing as others.

I crossed a friesian with a lusitano (up until 1960's it they were pretty much the same breed as the andy) and glad I did. I was pretty confident that I was going to get a really nice horse out of it and I did. The reason that I did that is because I saw the result of others breeding the same, liked what I saw and wanted that.

I may see a little toeing in or just the way she's standing at the moment. Any breed of horse can have confo faults so just check her out or have her looked at by a vet. I would be a bit leery if she's been ridden extensively as she's so young and still has much growing to do. Just started would be alright with me. Andy's/Lusitano's do grow slowly and my Friesian mare was not finished until almost seven.

As far as the breed cross, I love them. Most of the those crosses that I've seen I've like. My three year old filly is the sweetest thing with a touch of sass. She's super smart, very gentle, loves people, and is quite a character.

Should you trade? Well, do you want money or another horse?

Friesians were originally bred for riding horses. Heavy enough to carry men and armor into battle and but agile enough to move. Movement needed for war (would that be classical dressage?) Then harness horses became en vogue and they started breeding them for more of a high stepping action. Now, riding them has become en vogue again and they are being bred more for a riding horse again. As a breed, they are generally gentle, very people oriented, intelligent, and also full of character.

Andulusians (and lusitanos for that matter) were also originally bred as war horses and became Spain and Portugals sweetheart for classical dressage and bull fighting. They are smart, can be hot, very sweet with a lot of try. A typical andalusian will try to do anything for you.

If I were heavily into any kind of jumping discipline, neither of these breeds or the cross of them would be my choice. Of course they can jump quite nicely but others bred for that can do it better. If I were getting into competition dressage maybe, classical dressage definitely yes, If I wanted a very pleasant and fun riding horse I would definitely say yes to this filly.

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post #7 of 21 Old 08-10-2019, 07:19 AM
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This is my personal example of that cross of breeds.

A week old
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about three months
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Three years
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Her mom
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Not a good photo for evaluation, but my first impression is she got the fresian hind end. Looks like a weaker loin and fairly straight through the hind legs. Also see a touch of toeing in. But this could all be from the angle of the picture.
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post #9 of 21 Old 08-10-2019, 12:43 PM
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I'm glad to hear that the mix makes a nice result. One can never know which characteristics will dominate when crossing.

One of my favorite crosses is QH x Andalusian, the Azteca horse. ( not that I actually own one. Just day dreaming).
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I have a Friesian X TB X Paint and he is a lovely boy! Beautiful temperament and very smart.

In Australia I think Friesian X Andalusians are called Warlanders and are bred with that cross quite frequently.
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