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post #1 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
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The Gypsy Vanner debate...

I completely agree that Gypsy Vanners are WAY overpriced. (20 grand for a horse that isn't trained in any discipline? Just because it's pretty? Seriously?!)

But you anti-Gypsy Vanner people make it sound like the expensive American ones are the exact same as the dirt-cheap cart horses in Europe. They're not the same at all.

This is a picture I took of a "colored cob" in Ireland: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/...79cb6b36_b.jpg

Now here's a "Gypsy Vanner" for sale in the US: Headliner

Sure, they're the same breed... but one is badly-bred and the other is not.

What's wrong with paying more money for a horse that's well-bred? We do that with every horse breed in the world.

$20,000 Quarter Horse: Quarter Horse For Sale, Tennessee, Thompsons Station

$550 Quarter Horse: Quarter Horse For Sale, Arkansas, knoxville


I guess I'm just sick of people saying Americans are so stupid for paying so much money for a horse that's dirt cheap in Ireland and the UK when they aren't even close to the same quality. You can't compare them.
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post #2 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 12:42 AM
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You can get a painted draft at an auction for around $500. I love Gypsy Vanners but I could never pay that much for one.

On a side note that QH has a funky looking head (almost Arab looking to me).
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post #3 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 12:44 AM Thread Starter
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You can get a painted draft at an auction for around $500. I love Gypsy Vanners but I could never pay that much for one.
Yeah, one that looks like the horse in the first picture.

You missed the point...
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post #4 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 12:49 AM
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Where I live, I can get a two-year-old registered Canadien horse for 1200$
or, I can get a weanling Gypsie horse for 12,000$.

I'll stick with my country's endangered breed.
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post #5 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 12:52 AM
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I didn't miss your point at all, lol. I was agreeing actually. Gypsies are expensive and it's because of breeding. But if you wanted to get something that looked something like a Gypsy they are available.
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I didn't miss your point at all, lol. I was agreeing actually. Gypsies are expensive and it's because of breeding. But if you wanted to get something that looked something like a Gypsy they are available.
Oh, haha... It sounded like you were trying to argue with me. Sorry!
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post #7 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 01:07 AM
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i completely agree, i dont think i could ever pay that much for a horse (sorry to who have)
If the horse isnt trained, well than what point is there? i can get a horse practically identical, trained just as good as that and for much more cheaper.

I just think that some people are asking to much of people, and the price is so high well i think people will look at it and pass by it. IMHO.

I would love to own one, but the price is totally out of my range
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I've seen GV foals go for as low as $4000.

A horse is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. People must be willing to pay big bucks for them, so therefore they are worth it.
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post #9 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 06:21 AM
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Irish Cobs/Gypsy Vanners have become very popular horses to own, so they are selling for insanely high prices - which means irresponsible breeding is rearing it's ugly head - people want a coloured horse with a long mane and tail and heavy feathering on the legs ...

A few years ago you had to practically pay someone to take a coloured cob off you!

"Did I not just use the word 'puzzling'?"

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post #10 of 182 Old 11-21-2009, 06:35 AM
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what it is with gypsy cobs, is that its more who,s bred the horse then the actual horse and if your not in that circle you will never see half your money back if you go to sell'i know men[who arent wealthy]with mares and stallions as good as any that ever put a foot on the ground,and struggle to get 3 or 4 grand,but let the money men buy and they will take 20g plus no prob
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