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post #11 of 22 Old 12-18-2018, 12:08 PM
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The woman was terrified of him. He'd run in at her, she'd run backwards, facing him... he'd pursue. Tail still up, ears forward, high stepping and prancing all the way. She was so anxious I was shocked she didn't drop her lunge whip and run.
Omg. This is actually a huge problem.

Teaching Arabians to be dominant is the horse world version of how people manage to screw up chihuahuas.

The Arabian mix I lease has an owner who is totally scared of her. As a result of mixed messages and poor handling, she snaps, kicks, bites and flat out refuses all the time. At least, she did when I started with her. She’s getting a lot better. But I’m still battling a pile of bad habits.

And its easy to say “well, its just this horse” but its not.

There’s an Arabian in the same field as the horses I ride with my daughter. THAT Arabian also gets pushy about food and can be too assertive.

I met the Arabian’s “ex-dad” and he was amazed at how much space his Arabian gave me, and how the horse respected me.

The guy said, “He just sticks his head in my car window to get food from me!” (As if the owner had no control over this.)

Ugh.

I love Arabians. Just like I adore the chihuahua mix that I raised as a puppy. Arabians are beautiful, sensitive, proud and playful.

But when people let their horses intimidate them, things can get really bad
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Too bad that video is gone, I'd have liked to watch it. I play "pasture tag" with Cloney, he loves it. Gets all puffed up, snorty, blowy and of course, flaggin' tail and prancing around like he's stepping on clouds. It's so much fun to see, and of course, he loves it too.

I have found a bit of it that survived the copyright purging. Check your FB.

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Saw a brief video recently where the owner was asking Vets if something was wrong with her horse, as it was tossing its head while running up to her. Vet responded, your horse is an Arabian, it's perfectly normal. I just lol-ed.
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Go to 1:14. This one isn't subtitled, but the body language says it all. It closes with the owner flogging thin air for all she's worth. But that tail... and the float.






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I ride a Lusitano x Hispano-Árabe (which is its own breed in Spain, so the amount of arab blood varies), so I am interested in your comments. However, I wound up laughing out loud when I read this ditty by @ManicDaisy :

" Teaching Arabians to be dominant is the horse world version of how people manage to screw up chihuahuas."

My thoughts EXACTLY about how parents also manage to screw up toddlers!
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Thanks for your answers about the tailbone. I did some Google-ing before posting this and I couldn't seem to find a consistent answer, but I figured you guys would know!

I absolutely adore my mare's personality. Especially when she shows her Arabian side as shown in the pictures I added. Sometimes it's annoying if I'm trying to do actual groundwork and she's just prancing around, but it's hard to get mad at her.
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I ride a Lusitano x Hispano-Árabe (which is its own breed in Spain, so the amount of arab blood varies), so I am interested in your comments. However, I wound up laughing out loud when I read this ditty by @ManicDaisy :

" Teaching Arabians to be dominant is the horse world version of how people manage to screw up chihuahuas."

My thoughts EXACTLY about how parents also manage to screw up toddlers!
I rescued a chihuahua who’d gotten “trained” to be aggressive, and it was so sad. After years of trying everything, I had to put him down. It was just impossible to stop him from attacking dogs and ankles.

You wouldnt think a 7lb dog could wreak such havoc, but he did.

Luckily, Arabians weight at least 700 lbs. So people don’t think its “cute” when then bite.
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I rescued a chihuahua who’d gotten “trained” to be aggressive, and it was so sad. After years of trying everything, I had to put him down. It was just impossible to stop him from attacking dogs and ankles.

You wouldnt think a 7lb dog could wreak such havoc, but he did.

Luckily, Arabians weight at least 700 lbs. So people don’t think its “cute” when then bite.
I know this is thread drift and I apologize, but a few years ago, we had a German shepherd pup, Riley. Had Riley at the vet, waiting to get his shots, and this older man was sitting three chairs down with a chihuahua in his lap.

That was the most unnecessarily aggressive and violent animal I've ever been around in my life. The only dog I've seen worse was a neighbor's rat terrier that thought he was big enough to take me down once (I punted him like a football - we later found out he'd bitten two other neighbors before and after that incident and he was given away). While I have an inherent distrust of pit bulls (Not trying to pick a fight, folks) I just loathe chihuahuas, and I know it's because of the people that own them let them get that way, but still.

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I have a Chihuahua and a Chihuahua mix. They're both sweet, friendly dogs. It's one of those things that, like horses, comes down to training/environment raised in and individual personality. Some dogs are "born bad" as in something is not right in their brain though, and also I'm not arguing that some can be "broken" beyond repair by poor training or abuse.

Diversion aside, I had wondered about the missing bones in the tail of Arabians as I'd heard that too. I've seen horses of different breeds raise their tails, but it always seemed different somehow. I wonder if the gait and overall bearing that is unique to Arabs makes the difference.
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Don't judge someone's horse or skill because they don't compete or work with a trainer.

Sometimes they're the most in tune with each other.
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like horses, comes down to training/environment raised in and individual personality.
Just recently had a similar discussion on FB regarding those magnificent creatures, 'Wolfdogs'. People arguing that they're a wild animal... etc. Yeah, some 'breed traits' can be problematic for pets living in a human environment, esp with unknowledgeable owners - therefore I'm not a supporter of the general public(ignoramuses inc.) owning them. But it's not the dogs who are at fault. And people like Gerald Durrell & Kevin Richardson would probably argue against it being related to being wild animals either...

For someone to be an effective dog trainer, one must be smarter than the dog in question. That is why some breeds are harder to train than others! That's kind of tongue in cheek... but not very IMO & applies to horses & other animals, wild or domestic too.
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