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post #1 of 12 Old 03-05-2020, 11:23 AM Thread Starter
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Grey or Blue Roan?

I posted a discussion on this about a year ago but he has changed a little since then and I have MUCH better pictures! This is my Mustang gelding I got about a year and a half ago. He was black with some white hairs when I got him, so I knew he wasn’t gonna be black, but the longer I have him, the more his color confuses me. On one hand I say blue roan, and I have had other say the same thing. He gets darker in the winter and lighter in the summer, he gets a dorsal stripe in the summer, his legs are black and aren’t turning white/grey, I also read somewhere that white markings like on the legs and face kind of blend and aren’t definite, which his don’t blend. But on the other hand I say grey, and I also have others say that. They cut his tail before I got him for some reason, and where it’s growing back out it’s white, and the white on his face also makes me say grey. He also has some white hairs in his mane. Any color experts out there that can help me out? The first and last pictures were taken last month-ish and the others are spring-fallD979E4E2-7A28-4942-B743-0DF483ADC132_1583425146001.jpg
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He is a Grey. He has grey breaking out on his face- a blue roan would have the dark face mask.
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He is a Grey. He has grey breaking out on his face- a blue roan would have the dark face mask.
See that what’s I thought, but I’ve done some research and have seen blue roans and know someone that has had one with a roan face, not the black mask you normally see. I’ve also found pictures of blue roan mustang stallions with a light face.
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See that whatís I thought, but Iíve done some research and have seen blue roans and know someone that has had one with a roan face, not the black mask you normally see. Iíve also found pictures of blue roan mustang stallions with a light face.
You would need to reference a picture. I would guess that it was not truly a blue roan or someone was making the mistake about the grey gene being there.

Genetically/phenotypically, a roan horse requires the mask. That is what the gene creates.
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What does a roan face mask look like? Moonshine is a roan but I don't really see any markings on her face that make me think mask.

OTOH it's still winter, and she always really roans out in the spring / summer. Now she just looks like a dusty dark horse.
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Some roaning genes allow for roaning on different parts of the body. They are not from the roan (Rn) gene. The roan gene basically puts white on the body to varying degrees. Roan and grey can also occur on the same horse. Roan will leave an inverted V on the leg and the face dark. Mane and tail are not affected. Roan also does not change. It stays the same year to year. There may be seasonal differences but the horse will not progress beyond what they have and grey horse will continue to progress until the horse is white.

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He looks grey to me.

@ACinATX Mask mean the face stays dark, like your horse. :)
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He is grey. Not because of his face but because of his tail. The lighter end screams grey.

He also has a total lack of inverted V's on his legs whereas a roan (even one going grey) would have those. See below (a blue roan, not a roan going grey, but the best example I could find for you):
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Some people also call sabino roan, "roan." So I can understand the confusion about the white on the face.

BUT those horses have extensive white markings.

The OP's horse looks grey to me too. White on the face, white in the tail, looks like a grey to me! The first place my foal showed grey was at the roots of his tail.


I frequently see horses on Craigslist listed as "roan" when they are clearly greys. Sadly, the average horse seller doesn't seem to know the difference.
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