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post #11 of 16 Old 07-10-2019, 06:05 PM
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He has the typical questionable legs and tiny feet of the halter-bred stock horse, and unfortunately, he throws foals of even lower quality than himself. Not impressed with any of the offspring. The stud should be a gelding, IMO.


A friend of mine has a really nice cremello paint stud-- he's young and hasn't done much yet, but she's started him under saddle and plans to get him in the show ring and has bred him a couple of times to her Arab mares for half-Arab foals that are REALLY nice and should do wonderfully in the show ring at the HA shows. He's outproducing himself and with guaranteed color, she has high hopes for him. She bought him because he has good legs and feet and a sweet disposition, and you have no idea how many studs she looked at to find him... rare are the double dilute stallions who actually deserve to be stallions. But like she says, color sells, and if you're going to breed, you might as well breed for color and quality rather than just quality, because a buckskin will sell for twice as much as a bay. She has a point.
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I looked at this cremello roan studs website and his owners have already been breeding his sons so he is a grandpa. Sounded like they had a pretty full booked breeding season too so somebody out there likes him--lol. I'm pretty sure it's the color they are after.

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Perhaps it is your location Lostastirrup that lends to that. While there is a bit of halter in the mix here it is balanced by the horses AndyTheCornBread mentioned. I buy based on sound mind and conformation then I look at pedigree. Except one racebred that I bought every last QH and Paint I have bought or sold has had halter lines through Impressive so you'd expect that they would have the same flaws. They don't.
They also have Skipper W (all go back to him 12 or more times so even though further back pretty concentrated) and most have Doc Bar fairly close, all have high percentages of foundation breeding except that racebred mare who is actually more TB than QH if you break it down by percentages. The Hancocks here are the same as the Impressives. Just a small percentage. Enough to know that he's back there but not so much it is a problem. Most have TB so there are two types of build. Closer or higher percentages have taller, leaner builds with the QH stamp of big butt. Further back or smaller percents are short and catty. Those that are built like tanks (tall or short) have the legs and feet to match.



Getting back to location, I guess it depends on the surrounding influences - We have racing breds coming in through Louisiana and small pockets of working horses combined with more performance rather than halter in the show ring. I can see where some areas where halter horses are big would have more of that influence. When it comes to just a light duty riding horse the halter horses would do just fine so not a problem choosing those types of stallions.
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I looked at this cremello roan studs website and his owners have already been breeding his sons so he is a grandpa. Sounded like they had a pretty full booked breeding season too so somebody out there likes him--lol. I'm pretty sure it's the color they are after.

While I'm not a fan of him (largely because I don't really care what color a horse is) and he has his faults, he's not the worst cremello stud out there by far. When palominos and buckskins sell while nicer bays and sorrels don't, one can see why breeders will go with a double dilute stallion that may not be as nice as a sorrel when making their breeding decisions.


Case in point. There are two nearly identical fillies a local breeder listed for sale. Both are yearlings and bred very similarly, from half-sister broodmares by the same stud. Really nice fillies, both-- well-bred and quality. The plain bay filly was priced at $2500 and and has not sold even now that her price has been dropped to $1000 OBO, nor has anyone expressed much of an interest in her even though she's the nicer of the two when it comes right down to it. The buckskin filly sold almost immediately for $4500 with at least 10 buyers 'in line' if the first person backed out. I see now that the dam of the bay filly is now for sale, so I bet he replaces her with something that will throw color. And who can blame him?
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I'm a sucker for a nice bay.
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I'm a sucker for a nice bay.
I am, too. I'm trying really hard not to be temped into that filly. I do not have time for a youngster right now.
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