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post #1 of 23 Old 06-13-2019, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
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Conformation + Breed

Hey everyone. So I'm sure as some of you know, I got another horse about a month ago now. I snatched him up before he could go to auction and have been working with him since he was terrified of humans. And now that i've gained his trust more, i've managed to get a few decent pics of him and I'd love to hear what you guys think about his conformation, as well as what breed you think he is.

This is mostly just for fun and a way to help improve my own eye when looking at a horses build. His breed is unknown at this time. He's about 2 years old, potentially 3 and stands around the 14 hh mark.
I'm sorry the pictures aren't the greatest, but with a horse that's a worrier and is nervous about people often, these are the best I could get of him at this time. And due to his anxiousness while out and about, I only managed to get somewhat decent pics of his front and back end when he was eating his supper. So he isn't standing square, but as close to it as I could get him.


Current guess of his breed (by me, last owner, and a rancher guy). The guess is that he has morgan, thoroughbred, and potenially draft in him or maybe haflinger or something like that.
I honestly think for the random breeds he's crossed with, he's decently put together. But I don't know a lot about confo, so I look forward to hearing what you guys have to say.





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post #2 of 23 Old 06-13-2019, 11:21 PM
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I know you said you can't get better pictures, so I want to tell you now that any evaluation you get on them is not going to necessarily be accurate, because those sorts of angles can make things seem wrong that aren't and hide bad things. Also take this with a grain of salt because I'm not an expert.

From what I can see he stands under himself in the front, which isn't necessarily the most desirable trait, especially since it can indicate pain in some cases. He's somewhat posty in the hind end I think, with a steep hip and a butt-high build. He's got a really skinny shoulder and a somewhat oddly set neck (to my eye). Hard to tell how much of that part is muscling or anything though. His head is nice, albeit looking a little big for his neck. It does seem like he's got a decently short back, so that's a plus. He might toe out, or it might be his stance, but right off I don't see any glaring faults with his legs.

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post #3 of 23 Old 06-13-2019, 11:36 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks. And I noticed he was leaning a little forward in the pics. It was hard to get a pic of him standing and in each one, literally a second after I took the pictures, he moved forward, so his legs being under him a bit (especially in the first photo) is just cause he was about to move. And his hooves aren't great right now as they're on the long side since he's only had one trim in the last 8+ months so that could be affecting his stance as well. The trim he got done was a few days before I got him, his feet aren't as bad as they once were.
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post #4 of 23 Old 06-13-2019, 11:56 PM
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I think he's VERY Morgan-y. As said, could be some sort of cross ending up with that look but I wouldn't be shocked if you said he was a papered Morgan. While he does have a heavier look if he does have draft it's far back, I would expect him to be a LOT heavier if it was close up, same with TB/Haffie, a little bit of blood is possible but I wouldn't think it likely. Mustangs can have a similar look, idk if you have many in your location? Sometimes you have to look at what's most likely. Personally I would go with Morgan, I think purebred is completely likely. He has the (wonderful) elegant but still well built and solid, good feet, with lots of mane/tail, and the fetlock hair is common too.

As far as conformation hard to say from the pictures, but he looks solid and well built, I don't think a single thing stands out. I think you've got a diamond in the rough there. I quite like him and would love to see some follow up pics esp as he grows.

And I know he's leery atm, but check his teeth when you're able, they should be fairly accurate at such a young age.
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post #5 of 23 Old 06-14-2019, 12:27 AM
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I may be far off the mark here, but that first pic almost says arab to me. Or maybe some welsh in there? Since he's still so young he has a bit of filling out to do - he still looks a bit awkward and going through some growing phases. I also think he looks a little post-y on his hind end. Overall a decent looking chap - and I would love to see him as he fills in and grows up. Best of luck with him.
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I'll second Morgan or Mustang.

I really don't see Thoroughbred, but what do I know. I'm not that familiar with them. I just picture them sort of lanky and light all over. Not short and stout.

I used to have the most wonderful BLM Mustang that my friend said looked like an old-style Morgan. He had many similarities to your guy. But he also had a little bit more "Mustangy" head. But his body type was similar.
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He looks like he'll be a nice solid type. Breed - brown & black, 4 legged variety! But yeah when Yogi mentioned Morgan, can absolutely see that. I like him!

Things that struck me negatively is how bum-high he is, and how straight his hind legs. But then, if he's only 2yo it could very easily be just a growth stage & he will balance out. Was also going to comment on his high heeled fronts, but I noticed you said he hasn't been able to be done yet. Oh and the maaasive side to side imbalance of his hind end... but that could be purely his stance & camera angle making it look so bad.
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I may be far off the mark here, but that first pic almost says arab to me. Or maybe some welsh in there? Since he's still so young he has a bit of filling out to do - he still looks a bit awkward and going through some growing phases. I also think he looks a little post-y on his hind end. Overall a decent looking chap - and I would love to see him as he fills in and grows up. Best of luck with him.
I see that too but doubt he has much Arabian in him (more then any other horses lol) Morgans have a similar look and he just doesn't look like an Arab at all to me. I do see what you see though lol, just knowing both breeds well don't think it means anything. If that makes sense...! I know a purebred Arab who could be his brother however if you stood them side by side they would look completely different, the Arab has Arab characteristics and this horse does not.
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Looks like a Morgan to me too, right color, right size, right temperament. Morgans are often very loyal and close to their owner, but suspicious of others. Sort of "one person" horses. They also are higher strung, generally, than QH types, and sensitive. Hardy, hardworking with good stamina, but can suffer from metabolic issues r/t being easy keepers. Forcing or harsh training can make a Morgan very resentful and mean.

Of course these are all generalities, as every horse is an individual.

Second possibility would be a mustang cross, but doubt full mustang because his head too refined and the neck is nicely arched.
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post #10 of 23 Old 06-15-2019, 01:22 PM
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I would be willing to put my money on him being at least half Morgan, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were full... Here are some pictures of Minnie, the Morgan that I brought home earlier this year:






Toofine - 1998 Half Arabian
Minnie - 2013 Morgan
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