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post #1 of 39 Old 01-16-2020, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
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Looking at a few fillies for purchase

Hi so I am looking at a few weanlings and trying to pick the best one for purchase. I am okay-ish at conformation on an adult, but really lacking in the younger horse department. I know as they age the butts and pasterns come down. These are just some ranch bred horses that I was looking at. From my understanding they just brought them in off of 500 acres to wean them from their moms and took some pictures. I think they also brought in their cows too.
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Here is number 2
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Not an expert in conformation, but they're cute looking at least.

Nice silver dapple coloring too. What breed are they? What state is the ranch in?

Because I'm not sure that the Quarter Horse has the silver gene, but Morgan's are one of the breeds that do and they were once upon a time used quite prominently as ranch horses. Especially in California.
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These are some Hancock bred quarter horses. I think there are 2 lines that carry the silver dapple gene. These are either silver black or blue roan silver.
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These are some Hancock bred quarter horses. I think there are 2 lines that carry the silver dapple gene. These are either silver black or blue roan silver.
You're right, just did some googling and came across this guy. Rare Silver Gene | AQHA Stallion | Hancocks Silver Boy

So there definitely are silver dapple Quarter horses and the Hancock line is one bloodline that produces them. Perhaps this shouldn't be so surprising, Morgans are known to have influenced the Quarter Horse ((Quite extensively it turns out! http://creamridgemorgans.com/documen...ibution_qh.pdf & http://creamridgemorgans.com/documen...connection.pdf )) and ol' Joe Hancock himself is rumored to have had Morgan in his background ((Alongside the infamous Percheron)).

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In their pedigree its from Bar U Champ Binder the breeder just got a mare from that line and bred with their hancock stock.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bar+u+champ+binder

The other line is easier to trace and it goes all the way back to a stud that was a stud for both Morgans and quarter horses.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ms+barbarella


https://www.silverequine.org/america...ter-horse.html

I find it all very interesting. A little disappointing that the quarters dont seem to express it very cleanly. The babies I have pictures of look pretty sharp but it fades as a adults a bit it seems.
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In their pedigree its from Bar U Champ Binder the breeder just got a mare from that line and bred with their hancock stock.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bar+u+champ+binder

The other line is easier to trace and it goes all the way back to a stud that was a stud for both Morgans and quarter horses.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ms+barbarella


https://www.silverequine.org/america...ter-horse.html

I find it all very interesting. A little disappointing that the quarters dont seem to express it very cleanly. The babies I have pictures of look pretty sharp but it fades as a adults a bit it seems.
That all is very interesting, is this ranch specifically breeding for silver dapple horse then? Breeding for color ((In addition to longevity, soundness, no genetic disorders, good conformation, etc and so forth)) has become increasingly common in the last decade in the horse breeding world it seems.

Can't say that I blame any breeder looking to wrap their horses in a pretty color. The public loves color and with the horse market being what it is, anything that adds value to potential foals would be seriously looked at by any business-person.

Especially since these are fillies.

Since geldings are the traditional working ranch horses out west --Particularly among the Buckaroo sub-culture of the Cowboy it seems-- mares aren't usually used for riding on the big ranches. Some ranches even forbid mares altogether! Mares are used as broodmares almost exclusively and only so many fillies are needed each year to replace their aging mothers, so plenty of fillies end up as surplus that needs to be sold.

Not that no mares are ever ridden on some of the west's largest cattle ranches, but the tradition seems to hold strong in some regions of the US even today.

That's what I assume is the case with these fillies anyway.
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They are all just too stinking cute! Sorry I'm not a lot of help, but they all look similar and I would be interested in their personalities.
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I am not exactly sure how they got start on the silvers. The impression I got is that they have had the silvers for a while without knowing, then it became a known thing. Then they started producing several in the past 10 years or so. They do seem like a typical ranch and the mares are just broodmares, the owner is older. They have some geldings and stud colts for sale too. I just have a preference for mares.

I was planning to ride the filly I buy so I was hoping to get whichever one had the best conformation, which is why I was asking here for some feedback.
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