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post #1 of 33 Old 02-13-2020, 12:30 AM Thread Starter
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Hi looking for some confirmation information on this mare. Sweet sweet mare. She has one front leg very slightly crooked - toed in. Not the best front photo. I was told she was a warm blood quarter horse cross but no papers -what does she look like? What issues would her confirmation faults cause. Trying to learn.
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post #2 of 33 Old 02-13-2020, 02:27 AM
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Hi, can't tell much of 'conformation' from those pics, but she looks like she's probably put together well. except that it looks like she could be a tad 'parrot mouthed'(overbite). Also appears her rump is quite.... pointy - perhaps something going on there that a bodyworker could address. And she appears to be standing under herself in front, which commonly indicates tender heels/caudal hoof.
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She's a striking dapple gray...will get you second looks in a English show ring!
As loosie said she has a pointy butt, or rather more of a drop off to the tailhead than most want.
AKA goose-rumped.
I've been told this can effect the ability of a horse to use their butt and "get under" themselves well both in flat work and over fences.
Her front leg appears to turn from her knee...depending upon age of the horse, how she has been worked and cared for could make a difference, or not in her future.
Even in humans we do not walk with straight forward feet but all slightly toe in or toe out...
I would not worry overly much as she if clean moving has compensated for it well...if she hits/forges that is different and then no go as she is dangerous to trip herself at any gait or job presented.
With the pictures she appears a bit straight behind and slightly under herself in the front end, but these are not good confo shots either and she is not stood up well nor is the ground the flattest or level appearing to accent her attributes.
Because of the way she is standing, she also appears heavier built in her front end than hind...
Again, all in her presentation, her set-up stance these can change...
She has nicely shaped ears, wide-spaced as are her eyes with nice shaping to them too.
Her head is proportioned to her body, not to big or to small.

Either way, her looks, her disposition, willingness and her "want" are what make the animal desirable.
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Thank you both so much very informative. In the beginning stages of Trialing her with a gifted horse trainer. Not sure of the mares background was trailered in but she is very trusting so I assume well cared for. She is 10 years old. She has a great brain, big heart so very sweet not Mareish takes things in stride. Such a big decision my daughter and I are just not quite certain she is the one. She does trip a bit but is green her confirmation had crossed my mind though. I will try to take some photos of her today.

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Video from yesterday.
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From looking at the vids she is very hollow carrying her head quite high,instead of using her back end to power herself forward she is dragging herself from the front,this could be why she is under muscled in her hind end,and has more muscle in her front.nothing a little schooling wouldn't fix.
You also look quite tense riding her,I appreciate she is new to you and of course you will not be used to her movement but try to relax a little and go with her.
She has a nice trot,have you cantered her yet? Would like yo see how she goes in canter.
Nice looking mare and with a bit of work she could be a nice hunter.
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Thank you yes that’s my daughter on her for the first time. She does look a bit nervous. Today I hope she feels more relaxed. Mares second day at new barn also. The mares neck is high for sure I can see the hollow back. Now I understand better what Im seeing In regards to the front end thank you for explaining that. My daughter had not cantered yet the trainer has. I think I have a ground work video of her cantering I can put up. So much to learn. Great forum.
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A video of her in recently Schooling at a show that was sent to me.
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So, some jumbled thoughts in no particular order...

"She does trip a bit but is green her confirmation had crossed my mind though"...
This bothers me so much...
Green horse or not, she should not be tripping doing flat work forget over fences..
She is shod all 4...
I'd be asking some questions and if seriously considering purchasing you bet there would be a thorough PPE and x-rays of several areas done!

I'd like to see a video, not in a show schooling ring, but quieter at home over fences...
I want to see her travel from not so far away, both directions in trot and canter work and yes, over fences.
Extend and collect the strides so you can see the horses anatomy work to accomplish those tasks.
I want to clearly see her front end over a fence both in a picture & in video to see how she carries those legs and if the twist is a issue for her folding tight, not hanging a hoof. None of the video shows her coming at you or clear shot. {Most can't see that with a naked eye and need to stop the motion of video or take a picture to record it.}
Picture/video from front-on and side will tell a lot...
In places know I saw short on left hind...is it from her build or ???.
She is not "pushing" but pulling herself over fences and chipped in a few times so ruins the fluid motion of the symmetry and picture.
If she "pushed" I missed it.....in both flat or O/F work.

I also do not see a intended, asked for canter on the other lead and should of, several times the mare wanted to swap leads...actually I saw a pull-down to trot and then brought back to leads/stride...
They are also only working the horse in one direction in all the videos shown... how come?
{I know one is a show schooling ring but you can ride and call fences opposite direction, this place was not busy. Only riding one-direction bothers me...}

In your first presented video...
The horse needs a tack adjustment of martingale lengthened.
The strap should be adjusted so it comes right into the throatlatch area so the horse can carry their head at a comfortable level...here, she is severely restricted. She needs about 4" - 5" more length I think.
I'm surprised your trainer did not pick up on that strap and the tautness of it near constantly ridden outdoors and make the adjustment.
A standing martingale is to stop a horse from nose-bleeding you, not to give a head-set appearance as it is here, sorry.
The horse should also not be leaning on it, using it for balance with the discipline of riding your daughter participates in.

The horse is very tolerant...she never laid her ears back flat in annoyance at your daughters hand being what is called "in her face"...jostling and yanking at the bit.
That is often seen on a new mount and tenseness by the rider of the unknown .

She has a noticeable paddle on that leg with the twist...she has a broad enough chest and compensates to ride cleanly I think. {If there is interference there is dirt or a horse of her age there would be scarring or ruffled coat from rubbing}
She though exhibits no push from behind but pull herself around...
Head high, inverted neck and dropped back...these are not always "fixable" by a green rider but a accomplished trainer might be able to get the horse long and low moving as a hunter needs the way I was taught years ago. She has medium high knees doing flat work...not "hunterish" to me.
If your daughter only rides equitation classes {judged on rider appearance/look not the horse you're better but...} you're probably good.

Her show ring rider demonstrates the mare can carry a rock steady cadence of canter and quietly held head at trot and canter work. No martingale needed but she does carry a bit high-headed but not bad.
That is what I'm seeing...

Your daughter needs to ride her a more times to see if a partnership develops and the mare trusts to relax into her hands and your daughter relax and allow the mare to show her what she can do with her...a working partner.
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She does seem to be a very tolerant mare. I have a week to see how it goes. I will vet and do xrays if we want to get her. She will go through some training. We Have to wait and see what happens what we decide. I do have canter videos circling and trotting both ways with different riders in video I just don’t want post them as not my video without permission as riders are clearly seen. The mare did lead changes yesterday she did miss one. The martingale was put on the middle of riding that I had grabbed and realized it was to short but went with for that short period of time. The paddle is noticeable I did not see any wearing but she is also shaved recently. The tripping concerns me. The crooked leg even if clean it xrays I’m concerned It will cause issues down the line.

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