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post #1 of 16 Old 05-18-2020, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
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Tips for Long, Thick Manes

Hi,

I've been leasing this horse for a while, and I finally asked his owner if I could do something with his mane-- always thought she would say no. So he's a Haflinger, Fjord, and (unknown) little mutt. So, safe to say he has a thick mane, and it has never been cut really. I'm looking for suggestions on what to do with it, I've considered roaching it and staring over so he can have a cute little mohawk but it kinda scares me to commit to that. But any tips on doing that, or other ideas on how to manage it are welcome!

I'll attach his picture as well.

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-18-2020, 10:05 PM
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I think it's beautiful the way it is.
secuono and Dragoon like this.

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I have a horse that also used to have a long and thick (double sided) mane and I used to braid it (about a hands width of hair) to keep it out of the way or make a running braid from it. When we started competing in Dressage, I kept it shorter, so I could bun it and thinned it out over 2 months XD I've always been tempted to roach, but I have heard that it could make it come thicker. I don't know if that is true or not.
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Maintenance braids work well for long manes.

I just do a single braid for the mane, where the longest section of mane is (lower neck). I might braid everything during the hot summer though.

I leave the braid in for one to two weeks, then bathe the horse, and rebraid.

For the tail, I do a single small braid (taking hair from the back of each side of the tail and a middle strand). This is more for cleanliness in mares. I don't like to braid the full tail.
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What kind of horse is he? He is different.
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post #6 of 16 Old 05-19-2020, 12:41 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah, I've been doing running braids for him whenever it's hot or I know he'll be working hard. I can't really leave them in as he's field kept and our horses are known for getting their manes caught in things. I just feel bad in the summer especially for him. I just don't know if I can commit to the other extreme lol.
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What kind of horse is he? He is different.
So we were told he was a Haflinger x Fjord but I'm pretty sure there's another breed in there making him darker.
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The bay coloration would actually come from the Fjord as bay is a base color (brown dun). Fjords though are typically considered homozygous for Dun which dilutes the coat giving you the lighter presentation. Pangare being present lightens it further. A heterozygous Dun Fjord could exist and bred with a non dun breed like the Haflinger which are all sorrel then you have a 50/50 shot at Dun not being inherited leaving the base that was inherited (in this case bay) non diluted. As that is so uniform in their coloration because Dun is dominant you wouldn't visually be able to tell heterozygous from homozygous. If they did you could have the odd Fjord with the base color and no Dun but if they happen they aren't registered so though they would be Fjord they'd not have papers. I have friends that have said there were at some point quite a ways back non Duns but they are no longer accepted into the registry and haven't been for a while. Don't know how true that is but I have seen a picture of a horse claimed to be a non dun fjord on the net. It is an older photo. But that brings up the question of nd1. Could they also have nd1? With other genes present it may give the darker shades more of a Dun coloration as they are prone to fading and nd1/nd1 possible. Perhaps if there have been recent scientific papers published that would show whether it is in their genetic makeup.


Roaching is an option but not one that comes with a guarantee of timely regrowth. Some horses that are roached just don't get those long manes back. Slow growth and long turnover rates for that part of the body mean if you wanted the long look back you may be waiting for years. Those two things are genetic. As to thicker hair growing back in - the shorter the hair then the more follicles that have have hair of that length are exposed. The base of the mane is denser than the ends so you are just evening it all up.

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The bay coloration would actually come from the Fjord as bay is a base color (brown dun). Fjords though are typically considered homozygous for Dun which dilutes the coat giving you the lighter presentation. Pangare being present lightens it further. A heterozygous Dun Fjord could exist and bred with a non dun breed like the Haflinger which are all sorrel then you have a 50/50 shot at Dun not being inherited leaving the base that was inherited (in this case bay) non diluted. As that is so uniform in their coloration because Dun is dominant you wouldn't visually be able to tell heterozygous from homozygous. If they did you could have the odd Fjord with the base color and no Dun but if they happen they aren't registered so though they would be Fjord they'd not have papers. I have friends that have said there were at some point quite a ways back non Duns but they are no longer accepted into the registry and haven't been for a while. Don't know how true that is but I have seen a picture of a horse claimed to be a non dun fjord on the net. It is an older photo. But that brings up the question of nd1. Could they also have nd1? With other genes present it may give the darker shades more of a Dun coloration as they are prone to fading and nd1/nd1 possible. Perhaps if there have been recent scientific papers published that would show whether it is in their genetic makeup.


Roaching is an option but not one that comes with a guarantee of timely regrowth. Some horses that are roached just don't get those long manes back. Slow growth and long turnover rates for that part of the body mean if you wanted the long look back you may be waiting for years. Those two things are genetic. As to thicker hair growing back in - the shorter the hair then the more follicles that have have hair of that length are exposed. The base of the mane is denser than the ends so you are just evening it all up.
Ah, thank you so much for all the information on coloring and roaching! Was really convinced by a number of people that he couldn't just be a cross like we were originally told.
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post #10 of 16 Old 05-19-2020, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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So we did end up roaching it... It took us about 3 or so hours including breaks to charge to the clippers and let him graze so he wouldn't kill us. It definitely needs some touch-ups tomorrow but it looks pretty good, and I think it'll be even better once it grows a bit.

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