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post #1 of 8 Old 11-24-2013, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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Crazy supplement mom!!

I'm the mom, and I am going supplement crazy. Max has just been having a lot of little issues that are all adding up and I'm getting comments from different people all suggesting I use different supplements, and being the simple gal that I am I'd really like to keep the additives to a minimum as much as possible, he has gone long enough without any that I know he would be just fine ;)

But a little background: Max is a very stressed out boy. Been checked/ treated for ulcers in the past but he surprisingly didn't have them as bad as the vet and I imagined with how much he wigs out in his life..

He is currently getting an orchard/alfalfa mix, beet pulp, soaked alfalfa pellets, a joint supplement from smartpak and some vitamin B1 (thiamine)

I have been struggling with some weight loss which would suggest the ulcers as nothing else in his life has changed (besides it now being winter, of course). I am working on treating that but am looking for something that will help his tummy out in the future so that we can keep them in check and not get to this point again.

I also want to get him on more magnesium as our workouts lately have been such a struggle due to his stressing and being all tense and wiggy.

Trainer recommended straight magnesium but also mentioned AniMed Remission as a great supp. Like I said, I'm trying to keep all the fancy extras to a minimum, and the Remission seems like it has most of what I need all in one.

I apologize for the long post, I guess I really like to do my research and ask as many questions before moving forward with anything.

Thanks in advance!

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post #2 of 8 Old 11-24-2013, 07:50 PM
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Check out FeedXL. It breaks down your horses nutrition and lets you know what it might be missing in its diet, and helps you figure out what to use and how much in order to balance out his diet. I bought it on suggestion from a member here and it helped me so much. It could be that he just needs a few ounces of something like Sho Glo (vitamin supplement) and he'll be god to go.

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post #3 of 8 Old 11-24-2013, 08:26 PM
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MagRestore. Love it and it worked wonders on my girl. Actually pretty cheap. Also I think Smartpak has a supplement for helping the gut, Smartgut it might be called? You could always call them as they are very helpful.
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See that's the thing. I have magrestore qiessence and mg 5000 all as potential potentials on my list but which one over another? I guess I read too much into these kinds of things. I also find it a tad entertaining, like a puzzle, but by now Id just like the puzzle solved. It's been a long time coming with all the different tactics.
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post #5 of 8 Old 11-24-2013, 10:45 PM
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MagRestore has the highest absorbtion rate so I would think that's it's pretty simple. Also from my experience the cheapest. My $55 bag of MagRestore has lasted me 8 months. Just now getting time to reorder. I did get the powder but will be switching to pellets so my horse finishes it all. She doesn't get much grain so she has too much powder.
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Have your hay tested to see what nutrients it is full of or missing since it is the main source of feed and go from there. Just blindly adding things, may disrupt a balance somewhere. Plus, beware of the other additives in each thing that you feed. Too much of something, may prevent the absorption of something else that is important etc. You have to be a label nazi. Commercial feed/supplement companies make it very hard, but it is possible.
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post #7 of 8 Old 11-25-2013, 03:33 AM
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As someone who also has also gone through that supplement-crazy phase, my best advice (if you have the money): put him on Smartpak's smartvite + smartcombo and call it a day! Smartvite is balanced vit/min, smartcombo is hoof, digestion (including pre/probiotics, which also provide immune support), joints and omegas. I have no worries about the nutrition or support I am providing my show horse, who is ridden daily and shows regularly.

ETA... since they both come in pellets, he gets them every day after we ride. They basically double as a treat, and as long as he thinks they're a treat, they get eaten!

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post #8 of 8 Old 11-25-2013, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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Oldhorselady- I've done a test on the hay/ soil, and it's pretty consistent with the nutritional sinks of my general area. Excess of iron and not enough zinc/ copper etc. So I am also trying to tailor his things to that as well- too much iron inhibits absorption of zinc as can MSM and other things.

My trainer uses California Trace for all of her horses and doesn't have enough good things to say about it.

Existential- Max is on smartvite ultra now and I do think it's great! I have looked into smartcombo as well but for adding in a calming supplement on top of both of those is pushing my budget a bit.

I have read a few articles countering the statement that Mg is an effective camping agent, and that it is more an issue of finding a balance of calcium to Mg ratio that actually is doing the work on the cellular level, anyone heard this or something of the like? Input?

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