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post #1 of 21 Old 04-21-2010, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
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Does she look wormy to you?

I'm wondering if my little one is wormy or just getting a hay belly? You can see her ribs on occasion, and feel them pretty easily. I de-wormed her on April 1st because I noticed she had rubbed her tail. The time before that was March 1st, and the time before that was December 1st. I can't for the life of me remember what I used, but it was a different one each time.

I took these pictures on the 19th.






Here is the picture of her when I first got her, a year ago.

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post #2 of 21 Old 04-21-2010, 06:53 PM
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Not at all. Babies look pretty awkward when growing up. It is probably just a grass/hay belly. Shes cute!

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post #3 of 21 Old 04-21-2010, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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Well that's a relief! And thank you, she really is a doll, even if she is definitely in the middle oh a wonky growing stage, lol.

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Doesn't look wormy to me. : )
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post #5 of 21 Old 04-21-2010, 07:45 PM
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You can't just look at a horse and know that it has a significant parasite load.

You also need to KNOW what you are deworming with and the details about that specific product. Dewormings a month apart may do you absolutely no good depending on what two products you used in what order just because of how long they suppress egg shedding and what types and life-stages of worms they affect.

In WA, unless you didn't do a fall deworming with ivermectin or moxidectin there is no reason to deworm in Dec. At that time of the year the weather inhibits parasite reinfection rates.

How old is this horse? Do you have any idea of the names/types of products you used? How is she normally kept? Are paddocks/pastures picked regularly?

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You can't just look at a horse and know that it has a significant parasite load.

You also need to KNOW what you are deworming with and the details about that specific product. Dewormings a month apart may do you absolutely no good depending on what two products you used in what order just because of how long they suppress egg shedding and what types and life-stages of worms they affect.

In WA, unless you didn't do a fall deworming with ivermectin or moxidectin there is no reason to deworm in Dec. At that time of the year the weather inhibits parasite reinfection rates.

How old is this horse? Do you have any idea of the names/types of products you used? How is she normally kept? Are paddocks/pastures picked regularly?
No, you can't. You need fecal egg counts and floats and whatnot, which, honestly, seem like a waste of time in my situation. BUT you can look at a horse and guess. There are lots of times that I've posted in critiques saying they looked wormy, and I wasn't the only one. I was just wondering if she looked wormy, because maybe someone is seeing something I'm not.

Yes, I should know what I used, but I don't, and threw away the carton. I usually do, but I've never had a worm-related problem so it's not at the top of my "must remember" list. Maybe it should, and I'll try to keep better track, but at this point, there is no reason to dwell on the fact that I don't remember.

I de-worm every three months. December, March, June, and September. The one in April was impromptu because of the tail rubbing. BUT, if I can skip December by using something in particular, I'll definitely look into. Saved money is saved money. =]

Gracie is 20 months. She is kept outside 24/7 and pastures are not picked at all. Hopefully this summer when it dries up, I'll get a tractor out and clean everything, at least that's the plan. But as of now, most everything is a big soupy mess. They do have specific bathroom spots though, and never graze anywhere near it.

As far as guesses, I really don't have any... Quest maybe? Pyrantel? No idea. I could just be thinking of those because of the posts I've read today. =|

EDIT: I just re-read what I wrote and I realize I might be coming across a little snippy, but that is not at all the intention. I don't want to take the time to re-write and make it sound less snippy, but rest assured, everything was said with the utmost respect and no eye rolling in sight! =D

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Doesn't look wormy to me... Cute horse :)
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Nope, she doesn't look wormy to me at all either. Just a little grass/hay belly that I want to go up and cuddle with haha.

I know a lot of people say that horses don't really need wormed in the winter, but honestly, they do. Of course they may not get worms as easily in the winter as in the warmer months, but that doesn't mean that they can't get them. We worm ours every 3 months as well.

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Pechos, she'd love that! Gracie is a total cuddle bug! =D

I was leaning closer to the "not wormy" side, but seeing as my mare doesn't ever get a hay belly or anything, I'm just not used to it, lol. And to top it off, Gracie's coat is shiny, soft, and healthy looking, not to mention she is shedding very well. Last year, her coat was dull and lackluster, and it took her until the middle of July to really start shedding.

Phew! Well that's good. She'll get de-wormed again in June, and I think I'll stick with dosing every 3 months. It can't hurt. =]

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In the southern US, yes you do need to deworm in the winter. But in the northern US where it's cold you simply DO NOT. Sorry, not just my opinion but the opinion of the parasitologists as well and they have done the studies to back up their opinions. There is absolutely no reason to deworm an adult horse in the northern US in the dead of winter because they are highly unlikely to have a heavy parasite load unless you didn't deworm during the summer or fall. It's a waste of money and only serves to increase the speed at which resistance to drugs develops.

Spring and fall deworm with ivermectin/praziquantel or moxidectin/praziquantel and then this summer get a fecal egg count the middle of the summer---3 monhts after you last dewormed if you used ivermectin or 4 months after if you used moxidectin. That will help you to see what kind of parasite load your horse picks up during the time of heaviest reinfection.

Getting an accurate assessment of your horse's parasite egg shedding is one of the best ways to save money and do a good job on deworming. About 50% of adult horses in a herd need no more than 2 dewormings a year. Horses that are kept stalled all the time also generally need no more than 2 dewormings a year.

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