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post #1 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
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Equine Chiropractor

Hi,

Me again.

I think I am more looking for validation with this long winded question..

I have a 16 year old paso that I rescued. He is doing great and we are currently starting on groundwork again. He doesn't really need to be retrained, more just a refresh course as we don't really know how long he has sat. He was a performance show paso so he is VERY tightly wound, and we are more so working on him relaxing. I have been watching his refresh riding and noticed he seemed really stiff. So I called an equine chiro out to readjust him. She came out and said he needed alot of adjusting. That made me feel a little better about calling as I was really just going off a gut feeling rather than actually knowing. She fixed Castillo up and said give him 72 hours off but he should feel like a whole new horse. He also will need a readjustment in about 6 weeks, just to make sure all of her adjusting held. Okay, all that works for me.

After she left, my BO decided to give me an ear full of how ppl are going to just take my money and run for the hills with it since it seems like I am just throwing money in the wind. And that chiros are a waste of money because they will always find something wrong with your horse etc.

So my round about question for you is, how useful do you find a equine chiro? Am I really wasting my money? I truly don't think I am, but money also doesn't just grow on trees, especially when I have a 1 year old.

I probably will write another post about my BO and my interactions, because he truly believes a horse is a horse is a horse is a horse no matter the breed.


I might have also put this in the wrong thread, please feel free to move it if I did.
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post #2 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 11:38 AM
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I think sometimes chiro are not worth their cost, period.
Then there are times when you look at a horse and can see the tense, the irritability, the uncomfortable from the ground forget trying to ride them that a good chiro body worker is wonderful.
To me like a physical therapist or someone who does a body rub-down on humans there is a huge difference...
Deep tissue work when needing done can have a good outcome and impact on the animals comfort and yes, you probably do need several times done as the muscles must relearn align and what is to be "normal" again.
As for the other kind of chiro...who doesn't like ...well, you know...pampered a bit.
There though is a big difference in deep tissue work and just looking like you are doing something but nothing was accomplished.
Your horse might actually be sore after a good chiro, hence the 72 hours off if it is anything like having PT from a good therapist who is working out of whack back into align with the push, prod, poke and ow, ow and more ow...

You know your horse...
Do you see a difference in attitude, in movement, in how the horse does horse activity of moving, eating...just everything?
If you do, then its working...
If you see no changes, nothing better coming from this work then save your money for either a different worker to try or just save your money.
It's your money and how you spend it is your business not your B/O, period.
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post #3 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 11:41 AM
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I have used horse chiropractors for at least 30 years. I've used chiropractors myself for longer than that. Yes they do help align the spine and put things back, however with myself and my horses, things won't stay long unless you get a massage with it. Muscles have a memory and they will just push whatever was out of place right back in. I have found a wonderful horse therapist, in fact she makes the other chiropractors I've used look like The Flintstones. She works on the horse for at least an hour. She does red light therapy, acupuncture, all sorts of massage, and chiropractic adjustments. Does it help? Oh yes! One of my horses, when he would get tired, would start swapping leads from behind. She did her therapy on him, I gave him a few days off, gave him a massage myself before I rode him, he was back to normal, no more swapping leads. I had her out this spring to do the horses again, and I avoided the whole swapping leads thing. Now when I needed adjustment for myself, I go to a massage therapist first, then the chiropractor, then back to the massage therapist. I've only had to do this once, as the problem with my sciatica has not been a problem since then. Before I was going to the chiropractor at least three times a year.

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post #4 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 11:49 AM
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Chiropractors, masseuses, body workers, acupuncturists... all of them can help, potentially. It depends on what the horse needs and honestly, on the level of competence of the practitioner. If your horse sees improvement like she said he would, then I'd stick with it. If not, then try someone / something else.

Your barn owner's blanket statement about people just taking your money is disheartening. He sounds like one of those overbearing barn owners who knows everything and wants to be sure that YOU know he knows everything. I'd try to ignore it, or, do what I do and try to schedule the appointments for when the barn owner isn't going to be around.

When looking for someone who does any of this sort of work on horses, I'd try to find one who is also a vet. If you can't, it's OK, but to me this offers an extra layer of safety. A vet could lose their license if they mis-practice, whereas some random person who calls himself a bodyworker may face no such penalties. So to me, the vet is less likely to be a quack.

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post #5 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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I appreciate y'alls feedback.

You hit the nail on the head ACinATX, it is a bit disheartening as I am just getting back into the horse world after removing myself several years ago so always having the negative comments from the BO is getting old. Practices and equipment / technology available have changed in the 10+ years I was out so I am really trying to wrap my head around all of it.

I will triple check that this chiro is a vet, I know my current vet doesn't do chiro so I asked around for a highly recommended chiro.

Thanks again :)
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post #6 of 15 Old 09-17-2020, 02:09 PM
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Hi,

Me again.

I think I am more looking for validation with this long winded question..

I have a 16 year old paso that I rescued. He is doing great and we are currently starting on groundwork again. He doesn't really need to be retrained, more just a refresh course as we don't really know how long he has sat. He was a performance show paso so he is VERY tightly wound, and we are more so working on him relaxing. I have been watching his refresh riding and noticed he seemed really stiff. So I called an equine chiro out to readjust him. She came out and said he needed alot of adjusting. That made me feel a little better about calling as I was really just going off a gut feeling rather than actually knowing. She fixed Castillo up and said give him 72 hours off but he should feel like a whole new horse. He also will need a readjustment in about 6 weeks, just to make sure all of her adjusting held. Okay, all that works for me.

After she left, my BO decided to give me an ear full of how ppl are going to just take my money and run for the hills with it since it seems like I am just throwing money in the wind. And that chiros are a waste of money because they will always find something wrong with your horse etc.

So my round about question for you is, how useful do you find a equine chiro? Am I really wasting my money? I truly don't think I am, but money also doesn't just grow on trees, especially when I have a 1 year old.

I probably will write another post about my BO and my interactions, because he truly believes a horse is a horse is a horse is a horse no matter the breed.


I might have also put this in the wrong thread, please feel free to move it if I did.
I think chiropractors are very useful. I've seen humans (myself included), dogs and horses benefit from chiro adjustments. I think it's kind of sad that the barn owner is making you second guess your intuition about your horse's health. If you see positive results in your horse, then to me, that's not a waste of money. If after his recheck, you feel nothing has changed, then go from there. I like the other posters suggestions of massage therapy as well.

I have only met one Paso and he was very high strung and slightly neurotic. But at the same time, very easy. I loved him and thought he was great. You couldn't force this horse. You needed to be sensitive and thoughtful of him. If your Paso is anything like Prinicipe was, then I feel you have a very good handle on his needs and are addressing them accordingly. Good luck to you!
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I’ve been using human chiros since the 1980’s and equine chiros since the 1990’s.

My horse with the twice-fractured sacrum would not be alive, were it not for a quality chiropractor.

I would either be using a walker or not walking at all, we’re it not for my quality chiropractor.

They are not all created equal - I have thrown a couple off my property because they hurt my horse and I have given “The wave” to a couple who did not do one thing to help me:)

My current equine chiro is a blessing. She is a DVM, is a certified acupuncturist and has been a student of Chinese medicine and herbs for at least 20 years.

More than once the traditional vet has shrugged his shoulders and wasn’t able to help my horse. The vet/chiro has NEVER failed to figure out the issue and fix whatever is wrong :)

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@MylieMae what amount of money you do or do not spend on your horses is none of your barn owners business. (Other than paying him board of course)

If you see or feel a difference in the horse after an adjustment, great. If not, I might look elsewhere.

I have been through a few chiropractors for my horses and myself. Some were great finds and some were a big swing and a miss. I do agree massage therapy coupled with chiropractic creates for the best outcome.

At work we have a PEMF machine and I have been learning to use it. I have used it on myself and the horses before and after a show. To see the change is pretty amazing if I hit the right spots correctly.

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Hi,

Me again.

I think I am more looking for validation with this long winded question..

I have a 16 year old paso that I rescued. He is doing great and we are currently starting on groundwork again. He doesn't really need to be retrained, more just a refresh course as we don't really know how long he has sat. He was a performance show paso so he is VERY tightly wound, and we are more so working on him relaxing. I have been watching his refresh riding and noticed he seemed really stiff. So I called an equine chiro out to readjust him. She came out and said he needed alot of adjusting. That made me feel a little better about calling as I was really just going off a gut feeling rather than actually knowing. She fixed Castillo up and said give him 72 hours off but he should feel like a whole new horse. He also will need a readjustment in about 6 weeks, just to make sure all of her adjusting held. Okay, all that works for me.

After she left, my BO decided to give me an ear full of how ppl are going to just take my money and run for the hills with it since it seems like I am just throwing money in the wind. And that chiros are a waste of money because they will always find something wrong with your horse etc.

So my round about question for you is, how useful do you find a equine chiro? Am I really wasting my money? I truly don't think I am, but money also doesn't just grow on trees, especially when I have a 1 year old.
I have used them and think that in some cases it was helpful. Where I think people get taken advantage of is having the chiropractor out because their horse didn't feel like working today or wouldn't get their lead right. If you go at it knowing that people in any business are going to recommend you use their services for your problem it will help your bank account.


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I probably will write another post about my BO and my interactions, because he truly believes a horse is a horse is a horse is a horse no matter the breed.
For the most part I agree with him actually. Horses don't know what breed they are or anything else about that. What talents the breeds has, temperament, conformation etc. are human things. They would all be mutts if we left it up to them. :)
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post #10 of 15 Old 09-19-2020, 06:13 AM
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There are both good and bad chiropractors as with any type of job.

I have used several over many years both for the animals and myself, finding some good and others about as good as a chocolate fire guard!

I would never use a Mctimony trained as I have never found them any good.

The very best I have used both equine and human are those that use Applied Kinneiology (AK) for diagnosis. This cuts out any guesswork.

The woman I used on the horses for many years found many things out.

Firstly that a horse rarely has a spinal misalignment that was caused naturally.

Secondly that if a horse is misaligned in one quarter 95% of the time it is misaligned in the diagonal opposite. Occasional they misalign on one side, usually from running into something.

Thirdly horses that continuously misalign in the same place often need the muscle memory altered to prevent it continuously happening.

By using AK it is possible to tell which was romething has misaligned.

By using this method one treatment is usually all that is needed.,
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