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post #1 of 21 Old 04-08-2020, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Equine Infectious Anemia

I have owned horses since the 60's and remember vets coming to the saddle club to pull blood on horses back then and they would put a metal clamp in their mane to show they had been tested.

After all this time, have they really been trying to look for a vaccination to prevent horses from catching this?

They are reporting that Ivermectin will kill Covid 19 in 48 hours as it is an RNA virus. If this is so, equine Infectious Anemia is an RNA virus as well.

If we gave Ivermectin once a month like I do for my dogs, I wonder if this will stop the virus from taking over the horses body.
Just a thought!
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post #2 of 21 Old 04-08-2020, 09:54 AM
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I'd say no - because if it worked like that, it would have been figured out a LONG time ago.

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Ivemectin killed the virus in a culture. A bullet would also do the trick. Point being, what works in-vivo often doesn't for in-vitro. Ivemectin works against parasites because they occupy the digestive tract and that's the route of administration. I don't imagine an ivemectin nebulizer is going to catch on.


Besides, we already have a looming issue with parasitic resistance to our dewormers, ivemectin being one of the last varieties with low resistance. We don't need to go screwing that up(any more than we already are) by giving it monthly.
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I have two dogs that I give Ivermectin each month to for heart worms. Each time I take them to the vet, they check for heart worms and intestinal worms and they always come back clean. My female dog is 7 years old and it is all that she has been given for heart worms. My male dog is 4 yrs old.

There are other wormers that can be used on horses besides Ivermectin. If they do more research in Australia, I hope that they find that the drug does work.
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Warning

Do no give Ivermectin to Collie type dogs as it had proven fatal to many.
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Ivemectin killed the virus in a culture. A bullet would also do the trick. Point being, what works in-vivo often doesn't for in-vitro. Ivemectin works against parasites because they occupy the digestive tract and that's the route of administration. I don't imagine an ivemectin nebulizer is going to catch on.


Besides, we already have a looming issue with parasitic resistance to our dewormers, ivemectin being one of the last varieties with low resistance. We don't need to go screwing that up(any more than we already are) by giving it monthly.
I am on this ^^^ side of the Ivermectin fence.

Here’s my “dog doesn’t have worms” story:

Rottweiler came to live with me December, 2018. She had had all of her shots and de-worming in October, 2018.

I am not that diligent about the dogs to begin with but, life got ahead of me and suddenly it is early April, 2020 - neither dog has been to the vet, neither dog has had a fecal done.

I had to take the Rottenweiler to a specialist for back & hip x-rays on April 3, 2020.

They did a fecal while she was there. She did NOT have a single worm - nothing.

What is miraculous about that is this dog has a real penchant for horse manure. The “leave it” command and horse manure are synonymous with her.

That means my horses must not have worms and I only de-worm them twice yearly - maybe three for one horse if I think he has picked up pinworms.

I have been cautioned, for several years, by vets at different facilities to NOT over worm my horse due to the resistance worms are developing. Fine by me because I never was one to shove stuff down their throats unless I had/have to.

I have also heard about, then read up on studies regarding Ivermectin for Covid19. A seems a handful of old medicines are being resurrected and studied as a possible vaccine.

I am not one to jump right on any bandwagon, so I will watch, read, wait, and hope to heck something is developed soon IF something can even be developed, like was done for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, etc. I recently had a holistic vet tell me not to get to excited about a vaccine for Covid19.

Far as developing a vaccine for EIA, I’ve wondered that since I first heard about it in the 70’s ——-
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"White feet, do not treat" is the veterinary mantra for avoiding Ivermectin/Moxidectin for dogs, and yes, that includes eating horse manure after the horses have been dewormed. Even some herding breeds who do not carry the MDR1 deficiency can be sensitive.

If you have a white-footed dog, the MDR1 test is easy and not expensive, and then you know if you need to use extra caution with your dog or not.
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The only reason I mentioned the dogs; they have been on it all their lives and have not developed a resistance to it. I have a Catahoula and a Jack Russell.
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Warning

Do no give Ivermectin to Collie type dogs as it had proven fatal to many.
Here's a listing of most of the more commonly affected breeds.

https://vcpl.vetmed.wsu.edu/affected-breeds
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General information, list of symptoms, treatment and prevent.

https://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions...ectin_toxicity
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The only reason I mentioned the dogs; they have been on it all their lives and have not developed a resistance to it. I have a Catahoula and a Jack Russell.
It's a mutated gene that's the problem, not a "developed resistance".

https://vcpl.vetmed.wsu.edu/

Your Catahoula got lucky and your Jack Russell isn't one of the usually affected breeds.
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