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post #1 of 7 Old 08-07-2020, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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Fat/Vitamin E

So, my current feed and hay is very low fat (<5%) and vitamin E (<500mg), so I think I may need to supplement some.

I was thinking about flaxseed maybe?

For the flaxseed, it would need to be ground and stabilized because I can't get to the barn everyday to do that. I know that is is good 3:6 ratio, so that's good, unlike some other seeds/oils. But, it seems kind of expensive. Here, it is $60+ for 25 lb. hmmm Is it worth that or is there a better deal elsewhere?

Again, I can't get to the barn everyday so I do not want oil just left in her food for days (I pre-mix proportions in those baggies and they just feed one bag a feeding).
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post #2 of 7 Old 08-07-2020, 01:54 PM
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HorseTech sells a great Vitamin E product - there is many mentions of this specific product across the forum, because it is one of the best, if not the best, on the market.
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If you don't have a hard keeper that is metabolic there is no reason to feed fat. 2% of the total diet is all they need. Most forages have less than 5% which fits. The forages fat percents are really high in Omega 3 coming in at slightly greater than one percent with Omega 6 just under one percent. The ideal ratio meant for horses. Once you start adding concentrated feeds, commercial feeds and then oils and supplements on top of that if you don't know what you are doing you can really cause problems. Unless your animal is PSSM or working at an extreme level where they have to have the extra boost in calories in the smallest package possible then don't worry about it. There is a limit they can tolerate because they are not meant to digest fats. They have no gallon bladder to deal with them. Even though you see that the upper limit is 20% that doesn't mean your horse needs or can handle it. I know so many that are greasy, gassy messes at 10 and 12%. Horses that would do so much better on forage alone with a ration balancer but the owner insists they have to have feed.


Vitamin E is different if they have no access to pasture and only have hays. Then it needs added.
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If you don't have a hard keeper that is metabolic there is no reason to feed fat. 2% of the total diet is all they need. Most forages have less than 5% which fits. The forages fat percents are really high in Omega 3 coming in at slightly greater than one percent with Omega 6 just under one percent. The ideal ratio meant for horses. Once you start adding concentrated feeds, commercial feeds and then oils and supplements on top of that if you don't know what you are doing you can really cause problems. Unless your animal is PSSM or working at an extreme level where they have to have the extra boost in calories in the smallest package possible then don't worry about it. There is a limit they can tolerate because they are not meant to digest fats. They have no gallon bladder to deal with them. Even though you see that the upper limit is 20% that doesn't mean your horse needs or can handle it. I know so many that are greasy, gassy messes at 10 and 12%. Horses that would do so much better on forage alone with a ration balancer but the owner insists they have to have feed.

Vitamin E is different if they have no access to pasture and only have hays. Then it needs added.
That's just the thing. My horse is not on any of that. She was on a ration balancer, but decided she does not like it. I bought Timothy Pellets to mix in but she is still skeptical. So, right now all she is getting is timothy pellets and a handful of ration balancer (less than the 1 lb. recommended) She has free choice grass (but it is bad because of a drought) and grass hay, though.
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Can flax be substituted for SandClear (psyllium husks), like a 2-for-1? Right now, she is on the SandClear regime. But that is $20+ for 3 lb. Seems pricy if you add in the flax, which is $60+ per 25 lb. Does flax gel like psyllium husks?
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Then if she is at a good weight don't worry about the fat unless that is the only way to get calories into her. The vitamin E is a different story if she has no access to green pasture. If she does then that is not necessary either. As for not eating the ration balancer add applesauce or something she likes. For me if I have a horse that won't eat something I add Calf Manna. Doesn't take much much but it has anise in it which for mine is irresistible.

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I think youíd get better answers to both questions if you had two separate threads for them.

You arenít saying why you want to feed a higher fat product but if itís for weight gain then maybe try something from the Max E Glow rice bran range.

If youíre only feeding hay, no grazing, then you will need to supplement A and E as neither survive long in hay after cutting.

I would opt for a dedicated supplement rather than a multi vit/mineral supplement to resolve A and E deficiencies.

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