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post #1 of 52 Old 09-13-2019, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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Feeding a fat horse on a small plot

Hey guys,

So Iím thinking of moving this fat little horse with chronic, low-level laminitis to a small pasture with very little grass.

Itís probably like 1/2 acre. And weedy. But this is by design, as she REALLY needs to lose weight.

My question is this: will it serve her dietary needs well enough if I go out twice a day to feed her some low-sugar feed and also all her dietary supplements?

(And possibly let her out to graze a little extra?)

Or would I need to have some kind of slow-feeder available all day to keep food moving through her stomach?

The ground isnt bare. Thereís grass. Just not much.

(Sheís a 21 year old Paso Fino.)

(See image below for the fat pad on top of her butt.)

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post #2 of 52 Old 09-14-2019, 12:52 AM
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you'll provide her some hay?


That grass doesn't look that bad to me. But, can it provide enough all by itself? not for long. She will eat it down to the nubbins soon.


Is there some grass hay available? in a slow feeder net would be great.
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Have you spoken to your vet about this and how to handle it?

My friend has Paso's....quite a few of them actually.
Most of them are "predisposed" to laminitic issues and being on pasture full-time is a no-no according to her vet.
Best thing you could probably do is limit the amount of food intake by limiting what hours she is allowed to be on the grass. It makes a big difference...
If the horse doesn't need feed, then don't offer it.
It isn't just the sugar, but the carbs, kind of carbs and what those carbs are derived from.
Instead offer a good vitamin/mineral supplement.
Feed only meets daily nutritional needs when fed according to directions....otherwise, don't.
Offer a low-sugar/carb hay in specific amounts not free-choice and yes, a slower feed hay net is a good choice to have the horse able to eat more hours, less food cause there is a finite amount it should eat a day if overweight as yours appears.
Yes, your picture shows a horse in trouble with you saying it is a Paso, there is a look and yours has it!

I'm not in the camp that a horse must eat non-stop...not today with how enriched our foods, grasses and pastures are...
A horse needs to eat to meet their dietary daily needs...how you as the owner fulfill that need is a very different answer and is a specific horse remedy.
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you'll provide her some hay?


That grass doesn't look that bad to me. But, can it provide enough all by itself? not for long. She will eat it down to the nubbins soon.


Is there some grass hay available? in a slow feeder net would be great.
Oh, this is not the field she would be in. This is her current field.

New field has a lot less grass. But itís by no means a ďdry lot.Ē
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Have you spoken to your vet about this and how to handle it?


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Luckily, we have a new vet who just opened up shop on-island, and sheís gonna see Ella on Tuesday.

Iím sure Ella has some degree of metabolic issues happening. The issue is just to suss out whether itís EMS, PPID, or just plain obesity.

No pasture isnít realistic as we have no stables here. But sparse, weedy pasture would be better than the lush pasture sheís in.

Right now, Iím just waiting for the owner to sell her to me already so I can move her. :/

(Owner is off-island, and has been for months.)
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But sparse, weedy pasture would be better than the lush pasture sheís in.

It depends; stressed sparse grass, whether it's through overgrazing or drought, has more fructans, a type of sugar and one of the causes of laminitis. Also, not all weeds are low in sugar, such as thistles and dandelions.
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I decided to make videos, to get a sense of her condition and how sheís walking. So I can compare how she looks and moves as I try to rehab.

If youíre interested in her (basically) initial condition, in her original pasture, here are a couple vids:

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I watched the videos she seriously over weight big cresty neck,and fat pads. Need to get her off grass the sooner the better.

Yeah she's sore on her fronts not horrible but could turn for the worst if diet isn't restricted. She is a real cutie love her looks.
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Thanks, @rambo99 . She is a really cute horse. I rode her last fall. (Even though her feet were sore then, too. The owner kept saying it was okay, but I didnít feel it was.)

Sheís dead broke, smooth as all get up to ride.

At 21, she might not have a lot of great years left, but I think she deserves a chance.

Iím just waiting for the owner to actually invoice me, so I can say she is MINE, and I can move her.
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At 21, she might not have a lot of great years left, but I think she deserves a chance.

She has many years left...she is far from one foot in the grave.


Looking at her walk makes me hurt...she is more than a little sore.
I look at her and compare her to my neighbors Paso's and their way of walking/movement....
She is also very obese, politely put.
Hopefully this new vet is better versed in Paso and their particular metabolism issues and what you must do to give her the chance of halting damages already done and not compound them further...
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