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post #21 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 10:59 AM
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Horse, it sounds like something neurological from your description.

I'll be hoping for the best. Please keep us posted.

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post #22 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 11:17 AM
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A couple of things. I had a horse who did this, to varying degrees, over a couple of days. VERY scary, and I certainly sympathize with you. Mine also had coliked fairly recently prior to the episode. I did the HYPP test, since my guy was a grade horse-it was negative, but one more thing ruled out. We had NUMEROUS vets over a period of a couple weeks, neuro exams, internal medicine specialists, blood work everything under the sun, and could find NOTHING! Finally, one of the vets who came out saw him with his Miracle Collar on-turned out that was the cause. He was a bit of a goof, stretched when he came out of his stall, and moved just right cutting off the blood to his brain briefly.

So, is your horse by any chance a cribber who wears a collar? If not, maybe the halter was somehow tight? I hope it is this simple in your case too, although it took us a while to figure it out. And he is now fine-I sold him, and he is pretty successfully eventing Prelim.

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post #23 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by farmpony84 View Post
..... I don't know if I would wait until tomorrow for the vet.
I realize it is too late for this now, but I agree with this.

Something like this I would never wait until the next day to call the vet.

Hope things go well.
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post #24 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 11:26 AM Thread Starter
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Speedracer, if it is neurological, will that even show up on blood work? I'm getting everything checked, kidneys, white cells,red,everything.
I'm kinda hoping something does show up because it'd be better than nothing showing up. I'd still be wondering what it was and then I'd probably want more tests to try to figure out why she did it.
It was just so unexpected.

This pic was taken about 2 weeks ago.

And this was taken just 2 days ago.

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post #25 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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It happened yesterday evening, all the vets were already closed, so I didn't have a choice. I had to wait until the next day. When they colicked Friday I called every vet within a 2 hour drive but this was also after hours and I didn't reach anybody.

Wanted to add, no she has never cribbed and her halter was definitely not too tight.

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post #26 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 11:41 AM
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Horse, that's the problem; the only real way to determine neurological issues would be by necropsy.

I lost my heart horse to neurological seizures. I had every test on earth ran on him because he'd had one seizure, then seemed to be okay. The vets had no clue what was wrong with him.

He was fine for another 8 months although he had started dropping weight, then finally had another massive bout of seizures, fell and broke his pelvis, and I had him put down.

I didn't have a necropsy done, because it wouldn't have mattered; he was still dead. It was obviously only something that was wrong with him, as my other two were fine, and have remained fine.

I'm NOT saying that's what's wrong with your girl, but it's something to keep in mind if all the vet work and blood tests don't find anything.

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post #27 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
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I'm so sorry speedracer
While she was thrashing around I just had a horrible thought that she was about to drop dead. She slammed into the post really hard but she had awareness of what was going on, because at first she started to come forward, right on top of me then she lurched back and to the side to get away from me, hit the post and Sundance then tried going forward. Sundance was tied and I am so surprised and so proud of him because through all that he didn't spook, not even when she hit him. he just backed up as far as he could to try to get out of her way. As soon as it ended I let him go, I was more concerned about her.
When I went back down later I was very cautious about feeding her in her usual spot in the corner. If she had had another fit she probably would have killed herself if she had crashed into the panel or something.
I just know I can't lose her. She's mine and I'm "her's", it's always been that way.
This is the mare that from the time she was walking she'd run her old owner out of the pen, teeth bared, heels flying. They thought I was crazy for actually wanting her. She was the cutest foal I had ever seen, and had such a presence and personality. She loves showing off but she's definitely a one person horse. It took her 3 years to tolerate my husband and for the longest time the only way anybody except my cousin could pet her was if I was right there with them.
She trusts me completely and saved me from being trampled after a mare I had knocked me down.
Chanti was coming right for me, with my huge QH mare right behind her. There was no way they could go around me because I was between the tack room and the gate. She stopped inches away from me and spun around away from me and she pinned her ears at my mare and made her turn back, then she went around the building and came back to me to make sure I was ok.
She's always been very intelligent.
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best of luck and hopefully good news to come like it's something minor like memchwit's friend's horse that was just dehydrated or something weird.

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post #29 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 07:02 PM
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Sorry, I have not been able to find any very good videos of seizures and the ones I have I am not allowed to share due to client confidentiality. I will say this, neuro disorders are extremely difficult to diagnose and often even at necropsy we don't get answers. Blood work is helpful in so far as it will rule out other problems or possibly point to something like hepaticencephalopathy (a neuro problem due to underlying liver disease). Please keep us updated, I'm interested to know what the vet thinks.

Also wanted to say that you might look into Care Credit. They work with a lot of veterinarians who are unable to take payments. Please don't be too hard on the vet for not taking payments... it is very expensive to work on horses and more and more of us are getting burned in this economy. Hopefully Care Credit can help you out, I believe they have reasonable interest rates!
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post #30 of 48 Old 03-23-2011, 07:27 PM
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I hope the vet will be able to figure out what happened. Subscribing.

Also, I wondered, if everything else gets ruled out, if maybe it wasn't something like a severe pinched nerve in her neck or back that caused a full-body type muscle spasm when she moved a certain way. I don't know if that's a possibility with horses though, in all honesty. But sometimes vague, off and on lameness (I know you mentioned she had some recently) can come from the back or shoulder area, and if she has something going on there maybe it triggered an extreme reaction. I know that's a pretty far-out-there, grasping at straws kind of possibility, but who knows.

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