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post #41 of 48 Old 03-24-2011, 12:27 PM
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I noticed in the video you posted of the horse that acted similarly to yours, (I watched both of them, the other video of the same horse is listed as "exhibiting neurological issues") that her tags listed EPM and West Nile. I'd be inclined to give the EPM treatment a try if your vet thinks it might be that as well. She may not exhibit all the symptoms, or even more than a couple of them until it becomes severe. Not all horses will show clear and multiple symptoms. I wish you luck in figuring out what's going on with her. I'm sure you want what's best for her, and I know that the pocketbook can get stretched pretty thin when it's something not easy to diagnose.

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post #42 of 48 Old 03-24-2011, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
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If she doesn't have EPM and I treat her for it anyway, is that going to cause any harm to her?
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post #43 of 48 Old 03-24-2011, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
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Just talked to the vet again, asked her about the Bute thing, doing it for just one week and she said she wasn't sure how good that would work but she'd be willing to let me get a tube of it and try 2 g a day. She said Bute was usually given as part of the treatment for it since it's an anti-inflammatory. I also asked her how safe the treatment was in case she didn't have it and she said it was fairly safe.
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post #44 of 48 Old 03-24-2011, 01:32 PM
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Don't quote me on this, but if I remember correctly, the only issue WE had with the EPM treatment was that it depletes folic acid levels, so we had to add a folic acid supplement while he was on the meds, and I think for maybe a month after? It's been many years ago, so I couldn't tell you the name of what we used, but I'm thinking it would have to be fairly safe, since a lot of vets put them on it without doing the tap first.

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apachie, yep I had just read something that was talking about the old medication used to treat EPM vs the new one, Marquis. I guess Marquis doesn't and I can't remember the componenets of the other one. It worked by depleting folic acid or something like that.
How exactly are we going to know if it does anything though? I bet if the vet had done the same exam 4 years ago Chanti would have done the same thing and if she's not showing any signs other than vague weakness that may not even be there how are we going to know?
I had only just started riding and really working her again about 2 months ago. Before that it had been about 4-6 months since she had been rode so she's definitely not in shape like she used to be.
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I didn't really have time to read the whole thread so I don't know if you found out what happened or not lol. But it sounds alot like "head tilt" to me. Head tilt has various causes. But ask your vet about it.
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post #47 of 48 Old 04-08-2011, 10:14 PM
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So sorry that you are going through this. I hope that you can find something to help her. When my mare was diagnosed with EPM I was heartbroken. She had off and on lameness, some days she was a ok and others I could feel something was not right. I was about 13 during this time and it was hard. I remember that I had to let my stepbrother and his friend borrow my horses for a ride one day and Annie came back cantering on 3 legs, one rear off the ground and he didn't eve know the difference! I was so upset and angry, needless to say he never was allowed to borrow them again. She was seen by many vets and we got all kinds of different things they thought were wrong with her. Finally we found a good vet. Her symtoms, off and on lameness in the right rear - always this leg it never traveled, she did have the droopy lip, and one day she has a sore back, very slow eater, loss of muscle tone on the right rear hip. After one month on the meds and lunging every other day - 10 minutes walk and trot both sides and built up from there, she was a totally different horse. 3 months of treatment and work outs and she had a new lease on life. When she was 17 she outdid the 6 y/o on mtn rides. We never did do the spinal test, we did blood and went by symptoms. Best of luck to you and your girl.
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post #48 of 48 Old 04-09-2011, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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Well what I decided to do with her is just gave her time off, 2 weeks with no work, no lungeing,etc. I gave her the Bute for a week and it made her improve a lot with her lameness so I will not treat her for EPM. She's been perfectly normal since that one incident and now I'll start working her, doing mild hill work and just do what I can to prevent the soreness that made her lame.
I'm going to put her on a joint supplement and get a farrier out.
Today is actually the end of her 2 week rest so I'll start her slowly, probably won't ride again for a while. I want her to put on more weight and develop some more muscle in the rear first.

As far as doing tests to rulke out EPM, we've done pretty much evberything we can.
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