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post #1 of 36 Old 04-21-2019, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
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I'm starting to think my horse might have ulcers? I can't link his bad attitude to other lameness issues. He has always kicked out a bit when we first start riding, but today he did it throughout the whole ride and flat out refused to move forward at the end, today was the worse it's ever been. I just wanted to take him on an easy walking trail ride and he wasn't having it. He is also sensitive to saddling and around his sides. Dances if I stand on his side and pins his ears while grooming and sometimes tries to bite me or himself. Other than not wanting to work or go forward he eats like a champ and isn't losing weight or showing signs of colic. He eats quickly and because he is boarded only gets breakfast and dinner and there is quite a long time where he is without food. Just wondering if anyone has delt with a horse that has ulcers, but doesnt really shown the clinical sings.
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I'd say what you describe IS 'clinical signs' and yes, ulcers are common, esp in horses fed insufficiently. So how much/what does he get in those 2 meals daily? Can you not put his hay in a slow feeder, so it lasts him?

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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I've asked them to and they won't take the extra time to put it in a slow feeder, unless I have it hooked up and easy for them to throw it in a hay net. I am working on making something that I can potentially hang on his stall. The boarding facility also changed his food without my knowledge. He was supposed to he getting 2 flakes of alfalfa and then 2 Bermuda, mixed. With his alfalfa in his bin and the Bermuda in the hay net to eat throughout the day. But didn't happen, found out he is getting 4 flakes of alfalfa, which I think is the main reason for all of the changes lately. He is moving to another barn next weekend, where he will be turned out on a grass pasture and will actually be fed the way he is supposed to be fed. I think I'll call his vet also once he is moved. I always thought that he would lose weight or show more signs of not wanting to eat if he had ulcers, but his attitude about things really has been making me wonder lately.

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Here you go....


www.horse.com/item/hay-hoops-ii-collapsible-wall-feeder-with-net/E015992/
https://www.horse.com/item/hay-hoops...w-net/E010419/
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about palpating for ulcers
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post #6 of 36 Old 04-22-2019, 12:24 AM
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Not much vets can/will recommend for ulcers generally, except 'pump inhibitor' drugs which dont actively aid healing, just inhibit acid production so stomach ulcers arent exacerbated. Does nothing for hind gut ulcers at all. Hard pressed ime to find vets who know about alternatives & aids for hind gut healing. Dr Kerry ridgeway is one (american but famous over here even) vet who recommends Gastro Aid by kelato & I've personally found it effective.
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Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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I'm currently treating my mare for ulcers. I got her scoped to be sure.

She was doing the same thing (except kicking out under saddle, she actually was good under-saddle) for a few months now. It progressively got worse. I didn't know much about ulcers until I googled her symptoms! She had every single one except lack of appetite. Couldn't groom her sides or saddle her without her threatening to bite or kick.

I'd definitely get him scoped to be sure. This way you will KNOW if he has them or not.
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post #8 of 36 Old 04-22-2019, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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This wont work, he has a pipe stall. I had bought one and tried to install it but it didn't want to stay on the pipe and then it cant lock and it just didn't work. Im just struggling with a lot of things with him ever since I got him. I've had other posts on here also where Im pretty much just throwing crap at the wall and seeing if it will help our relationship, but everything im doing just seems to make it worse. Sorry, pity party over.

I will get his vet out to see him, again. I am going to get him scoped and see if I can get him healthy and happy and then he and I are going to a training barn to get us both on the right track. Just wondering if his resistant attitude has something to do with him being in pain. Ever since I brought him home, I have felt something is off, just cant seem to find what it is.

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I'm starting to think my horse might have ulcers? I can't link his bad attitude to other lameness issues.

Not that it can't be ulcers, but I am curious what else you have already checked for lameness?
Has he had a lameness evaluation with an equine vet?

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Not that it can't be ulcers, but I am curious what else you have already checked for lameness?
Has he had a lameness evaluation with an equine vet?
He has had 2 vets out and a chiropractor out in the last 3 months to look at him. When I first bought him (about 3 months ago) also he also had another vet check done. No issues, he does have a small old injury on his back left hock, but it doesn't cause him any discomfort at all. I had his tack checked by the chiropractor and a saddle maker out. I think I've done more health checks on him than actual training or riding. We also have a nutritionist coming out today to help try and figure this all out.
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