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post #1 of 25 Old 04-05-2019, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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Hind leg caught in electrobraid

I was just getting ready to jump in the shower when I looked out the window and saw that the horses looked agitated-two were running around and one looked like she was kicking out at something. I thought maybe there was a stray dog or coyote bothering them, so got dressed and went to see.

As I got closer, my heart sank and I saw my mare Fizz stuck in the fence. Closer still, it was her right hind leg stretched out behind her tangled in the top strand. I ran to try to help her and realized she was getting shocked over and over (I didn’t think the fence was live as we still have snow covering the bottom strand in some places). Poor girl was just standing there, not really thrashing but struggling to get the leg free. I ran back to where the plug is while calling my husband who was thankfully home; got fence unplugged, ran back, got her to take a couple of steps back so the tension on the leg wasn’t so tight and rested her foot on my knee to take some weight off. Husband got there and was able to untwist the strand from just above her fetlock where she was stuck.

She immediately trotted away with the other two running after her-adrenaline I guess. She was drenched in sweat and wide eyed. Poor thing. This was about an hour ago now. Talked to vet, gave bute and am icing. She is alternating putting weight on it and resting the weight on the toe. She looks a little dazed. Has eaten some hay.

As I’m coming down off my own adrenaline, I’m turning into a bit of a wreck. Vet and former BO both said there’s really nothing to do but just ice and see how she feels in the morning. Any other advice or just hurry up and wait?
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Is she cut?
Bloody, bleeding or can you see if the wire pierced the skin?

Answers to that would get me doing a lot more hands-on than a wait and see...
If she is cut ....look very carefully at that leg, high & low for damage...
If she needs stitches you have a finite amount of time where it is "safe" to stitch and have less chance of complications...

Vet did not make a suggestion of some anti-inflammatory being administered for a period of time? Bute or something similar...

She's probably going to swell...and swelling is what causes pain factor to escalate.
No put a standing wrap on her to keep swelling down?
Yes, I would actually be glad to see her moving about and full weight bearing being with her pasture mates..

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Thanks HLG. Fortunately no cuts or even visible abrasions-vet said we may see a “wrap injury” where hair eventually falls out.

Yes, 2g bute given and iced under a standing wrap for about 30 minutes right after it happened. Will do 2g in the morning, then go to 1g tomorrow evening and into next day if needed.
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You are at the wait and see stage at this point. I'd say chances are pretty good she didn't do a lot of internal damage since she wasn't really fighting being hung up. She'll probably be a bit spooky for a while until she gets over the repeated shocks. Fingers crossed she's nothing but a bit sore from her experience.
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Check over for swelling or injuries. Extra hay and a sweet snack like her grain with molasses. One of those traumatizing things that's can happen . I would stall her for warmth but if you don't have that its fine as well.

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I wouldn't stall, walking around especially if here is snow on the ground will keep any swelling from bruising down.

If you have any arnica give the tablets in a feed or if you have the gel rub that in the area. Helps with bruising.

Long way from her heart, she'll live!
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If shes out in the snow you wont really be able to see if there is any underlying injury though. I agree with ice if so. Youll be able to see any tenderness upon evaluation.

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@egrogan , we've had that happen here, although the horse freed itself alone and ended up a bit scraped. It's very stretchy stuff so can happen. I tend to have fence pliers lying in an easy to reach spot. The handles are insulated and you can cut the polybraid without even turning the fence off in a situation like that. We find that tightening the polybraid periodically reduces the chances of a wraparound. And the worst thing of that kind that ever happened here was a kangaroo doe getting polybraid wrapped around her neck on the hop - it was at the far end of the property, and we didn't notice until we saw the dead kangaroo. I had nightmares over how that poor animal ended its life, being shocked and strangling herself trying to get away. It was so horrible.
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Fortunately no cuts or even visible abrasions-vet said we may see a “wrap injury” where hair eventually falls out.

I use a product that may help you if the injury site balds, or starts to bald, or starts to itch....
It isn't advertised to do this, but I've used it twice now and found hair regrowth, minimized the scarring {after outer skin healed}, stopped the itching and irritation of healing and hair follicle crazies...
Wahna-Win Complete Coat Care
This works for me and it helped...

Sprayed my horse 2x a day with it and it worked...like within minutes of application he stopped the itching...then the heal began.
Something to consider and look into if you need some assistance in that area....ask your vet for approval of use since this also is on a injury site.
I find it helps for bug welts, chigger bites, or just to make the coat glisten {}....
I find it isn't carried everywhere, but is easily available online and the website did offer a list of tack shops who carry there line of products.
I don't do M-T-G...can't stand the stench and my horses got reaction burns...threw it in the garbage can!
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I appreciate everyone who took time to respond! I am cautiously optimistic this morning.

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I'd say chances are pretty good she didn't do a lot of internal damage since she wasn't really fighting being hung up. She'll probably be a bit spooky for a while until she gets over the repeated shocks. Fingers crossed she's nothing but a bit sore from her experience.
The leg had some swelling this morning all along her cannon bone, but it wasn't hot anywhere. She was standing on it fully, not even shifting weight on and off of it like last night, so that was encouraging. Eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, acting very normal. We had a little fresh snow on the ground covering over some of the hard, frozen icy spots, and she walked around ok on that. She does look a little stiff/sore higher up when you watch her walk on that leg, so might do a little massage later today. She despises the bute and acted like I was trying to poison her breakfast- wish I had gotten some of the funny faces she was making on video. She was highly offended. I just ran out to grab some applesauce and I will have to syringe the rest in as she wouldn't eat the "tainted" feed, but I will keep up with that this weekend.


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I wouldn't stall, walking around especially if here is snow on the ground will keep any swelling from bruising down.

If you have any arnica give the tablets in a feed or if you have the gel rub that in the area. Helps with bruising.

Long way from her heart, she'll live!
Loved the bolded part, gave me a good laugh. I do have some arnica gel so will rub that in when I do some massage later. I ultimately decided not to stall; while I do have a barn with decent sized boxes, they are never stalled overnight and I figured the chances of doing more damage cooped up all night out of the ordinary were greater than just keeping her locked in a smaller sacrifice area outside with her buddies. Vet said the same thing about snow, was glad there was still some on the ground. Actually, my "icing" last night was just taking some snow and molding that around her leg, held in place with a wrap, until it melted per vet's instructions. That's a Vermont horse vet for you!

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@egrogan , we've had that happen here, although the horse freed itself alone and ended up a bit scraped. It's very stretchy stuff so can happen. I tend to have fence pliers lying in an easy to reach spot. The handles are insulated and you can cut the polybraid without even turning the fence off in a situation like that. We find that tightening the polybraid periodically reduces the chances of a wraparound. And the worst thing of that kind that ever happened here was a kangaroo doe getting polybraid wrapped around her neck on the hop - it was at the far end of the property, and we didn't notice until we saw the dead kangaroo. I had nightmares over how that poor animal ended its life, being shocked and strangling herself trying to get away. It was so horrible.
Thanks for the tip on the fence pliers, had never heard of those but will be finding a pair to order online. Very sad story about the kangaroo in your field. I admit I had some bad dreams last night hearing the scared little squeal Fizz was making as she got hit with the shock until I could get the fence unplugged It was sort of sweet how the other two horses surrounded her while she was trapped.

We will have to figure out a longer term fix for the fence. She ended up snapping a 4x4 wooden post in half, unfortunately a post that joined two sections of fencing together so that's a bit of a repair. The ground is still frozen solid so there's no driving a new post, even a temporary one, so we've got things rigged back together for now, but I will have to keep one section of the field closed off for a bit because there's not a good way to retighten the strands at this point. I wish I knew how it happened, I still can't quite figure out how she ended up tangled behind in the top fence strand- she almost looked like she was caught in a snare trap, but the leg was so far off the ground. As best I can tell, she couldn't have been caught more than 15-20 minutes, I had just finished feeding and walked up to the house to see my husband when I heard his car drive in. We talked for a minute and I got the chickens settled and ready to close in for the night, and was getting ready to shower before dinner. We had considered going out to eat but were both too tired, and I'm so glad we hadn't left right when he got home; who knows what would have happened had she been stuck longer. Scary.

Thanks for the tip on hair regrowth HLG. We'll see if we need it- time will tell I guess.

Here she is this morning- obviously she's standing on an incline here, but she seemed comfortable eating breakfast. The black stockings make it hard to tell the shape of the leg (it's the right hind, closest to the camera), but it's not even really visibly swollen, just feels puffy when you put your hands on it. I checked the leg up and down again to make sure I hadn't missed any cuts or rubs, but fingers crossed, there was nothing there.
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