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post #11 of 18 Old 01-24-2012, 02:22 AM
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Well you will need 2 files, one for the clinches & one to file the horse's hoof and a shoe puller. It's not the end of the world if the horse's shoes are loose. Just schedule your appointments ahead of time so this doesn't happen. My farrier has a very tight schedule, I can't call him & expect him to tend to my horses' feet within the week (except for emergencies eg-thrown shoe), so when he works on them I make sure he schedules them for 6 weeks ahead of time. That way I am not scrambling with loose shoes & a show schedule.
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post #12 of 18 Old 01-24-2012, 02:23 AM
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Wow, it looks like he just ripped them off.

Can't do much now but let them grow.

If you are concerned before the show and there hasn't been enough growth to re-shoe and cut the bad parts out, there are hoof filling materials out there that farriers can use to fill in the gaps.

I've never used them so I don't know how hard they are to use, or how expensive, but I do know they exist. Kind of like wood putty for hooves.

I actually use a clinch cutter and hammer to loosen the clinches. Not that I shoe anymore, but when I did that's what I did. And I still keep the tools because you never know when you might need them. Pulling shoes is a good skill for any horse owner to have. (And that guy did not have those skills, lol).
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post #13 of 18 Old 01-24-2012, 06:42 PM
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I am not trying to say your neighbour didn't do a bad job at all - does look a bit messy, but from looking at those pics, I get a different story. Not trying to assume anything, just telling what I see.

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I don't think there's any words to express how angry I am about all this right now to be honest, i'm disgusted to say the least.
You asked someone, of who's skills & knowledge you don't know much. He *apparently*(don't want to jump to conclusions with little info) did a bad job. You have your horse shod but don't know how, or have the tools to remove a loose shoe in case of emergency. For that much excess wall to be cut, it appears your horse was WAY overdue for farriery. With only those pics, can't get a clear idea, but must ask, what exactly did your farrier do aside from tack on shoes? I wouldn't be so angry with your neighbour.

I don't know how long your horse had been shod before the shoe coming loose, but the guy didn't rip the shoes off & didn't rip out clenches - assuming he only cut wall & not into sole, it looks like there was a HUGE amount of excess wall, so much so that he was able to just nip it all right off above the nails even!

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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post #14 of 18 Old 01-24-2012, 06:53 PM
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and this is the hoof pieces with the nails still in them, that I found in the paddock from this morning.
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I don't think there is any excuse for the photo above. Even if the feet were THAT long, he should have cut the clinches and pulled shoe properly. Then he could have actually trimmed the hoof flat, not like it was chewed off by a beaver. So basically he was too lazy to cut the clinches.

Anyway, no long term harm done. The good news is hooves grow.

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post #15 of 18 Old 01-24-2012, 09:53 PM
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Hoof fillers work well, although when I had my mare done it was not even close to what I am seeing in your pics. Did you not ask your farrier what your options were? Sure the foot will grow out, but if you are showing soon fillers are a good option, when done properly you can barely tell that they have been filled. I would say its going to take a few trims to get those feet back to normal...terrible, terrible work....
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post #16 of 18 Old 01-25-2012, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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I am not trying to say your neighbour didn't do a bad job at all - does look a bit messy, but from looking at those pics, I get a different story. Not trying to assume anything, just telling what I see.



You asked someone, of who's skills & knowledge you don't know much. He *apparently*(don't want to jump to conclusions with little info) did a bad job. You have your horse shod but don't know how, or have the tools to remove a loose shoe in case of emergency. For that much excess wall to be cut, it appears your horse was WAY overdue for farriery. With only those pics, can't get a clear idea, but must ask, what exactly did your farrier do aside from tack on shoes? I wouldn't be so angry with your neighbour.

I don't know how long your horse had been shod before the shoe coming loose, but the guy didn't rip the shoes off & didn't rip out clenches - assuming he only cut wall & not into sole, it looks like there was a HUGE amount of excess wall, so much so that he was able to just nip it all right off above the nails even!
I only asked him because I know he shoes his own racehorses and has previously done my mare, who he did a nice tidy job on for me, and I was worried that with mitch scratching his face with his hooves that he might rip his face open and I couldn't get hold of my farrier.
I know the basics of how to pull a shoe, and my grandad has the tools that I'm supposed to have but I haven't gotten them home yet.
He was far overdue yes, but we had rung several times before he had gotten due to have his shoes done, and had not gotten hold of my farrier.. I have since found out the reason for that though and that's why I have his cellphone number now.
Not a lot really, from my point of view anyway, but I was busy holding my horse still so I wasn't really watching his work this time.

He had the shoes on for about 8 weeks before they come loose, we started trying to contact the farrier at about week 5 because his hooves grow like no tomorrow in summer here. I;m too quick to fire up I will be the first to admit that, the reason I was so angry at the time though was that he has done my mare before and she has been fine, and he shoes his own (successful) racehorses.. And then this happens, I just can't figure out why.

I think nipping it off above the nails was what he was trying to do, but by the looks of the pieces of hoof with the nails in them (which are on my front door step) he has cut the shoe off at the bottom off the hoof, then cut the hoof with the nails still in it.. Wouldn't it be easier to cut the clenches and pull the shoe?

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Well you will need 2 files, one for the clinches & one to file the horse's hoof and a shoe puller. It's not the end of the world if the horse's shoes are loose. Just schedule your appointments ahead of time so this doesn't happen. My farrier has a very tight schedule, I can't call him & expect him to tend to my horses' feet within the week (except for emergencies eg-thrown shoe), so when he works on them I make sure he schedules them for 6 weeks ahead of time. That way I am not scrambling with loose shoes & a show schedule.
I'm going to go out to grandads then and get the tools, I know he has atleast one rasp and a shoe puller. So I'll get the equipment somehow.
We had been trying to but at that time he was extremely hard to contact, but I now have his cellphone number and we have already agreed that he is coming out in 3 weeks time, so that's a relief. He has informed me though that he might be moving 6 hours away! NOOO, that will mean I have to find another farrier!!

R.I.P ~ Bubbles - 25yo tb mare - 13.04.2011 ~ 8:30am ~ passed away naturally and peacefully in my arms
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I might have a look at hoof fillers then, I just wanted to make sure that anything I used was not going to make my farriers job difficult the next time round. I did ask him, and he said something about "gaps no more" which is apparently like a silicone filler for buildings? Before I asked more about it though he had to go to his next appointment, and I only remembered after he left.. I just thought maybe silicone based products would make it harder the next time around? I don't know

R.I.P ~ Bubbles - 25yo tb mare - 13.04.2011 ~ 8:30am ~ passed away naturally and peacefully in my arms
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