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post #11 of 37 Old 01-14-2012, 11:05 AM
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I use Listerine. The old dirty orange colored kind. It's really cheap, easy to use and works fast. Just loosen the scabs, pour on, and let dry. I use it straight from the bottle. I usually just treat once and it's gone.


I would not recommend giving penicillin or any antibiotics unless you get a culture with antibiotic sensitivity done in order to make sure you are giving something that will actually kill the bug in question. If the wrong antibiotic is used it leads to resistance in bacteria which is becoming a big problem. I work in my states veterinary diagnostic lab and see it all the time.
Well, that's what our vet had said to do when we had a severe case. I was just putting the idea out there as an option.

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My gelding has horrific rain rot. We do regular baths of iodine and dish soap. We also recently tried spraying him down with Fungasol, which does seem to have made the scabs fall off more easily. I'm very interested in the Vitamin A treatment, however, though my horse is not lacking in nutrition. Has anyone else tried that?
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post #14 of 37 Old 01-15-2012, 02:15 AM
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My gelding has horrific rain rot. We do regular baths of iodine and dish soap. We also recently tried spraying him down with Fungasol, which does seem to have made the scabs fall off more easily. I'm very interested in the Vitamin A treatment, however, though my horse is not lacking in nutrition. Has anyone else tried that?
If you are having ongoing problems with rain rot try a supplement that has a good amount of Copper and Zinc in it as both are necessary for strong skiin.

Also try bathing him in Nizoral - seems to work really well even on hard to treat cases. Make sure you was well beyond the affected area and if you can youo get better results if you can use hand hot water to dilute the shampoo. Nizoral can be bought at a pharmacy - the 2% solution is best.
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Wouldn't Listerine burn from the alcohol in it?
Not if you dilute it with water
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post #16 of 37 Old 01-22-2012, 06:55 AM
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Most rainrot is dietary related. Supplementing Vit A is all I do. I dont brush, pick, curry or scrub or anything. It goes away all by itself. If the horse has skin issues, he goes on Vit A supplementation.

The reason it seems to go away when the horses shed out is that the green grass comes in. Green grass is high in Vit A. The reason we see alot of rainrot and lice this time of the year is because it has gone from the hay that was cut back in the summer and fall and the horses store of it in his body has been depleted. Hay looses its Vit A in about 3 to 4 months of cutting.This theory has been proven to me over and over again now. When I first heard it, I doubted, but having seen the proof for myself and that I never have rainrot anymore, Im a believer.

Also, even if you feed a fortified feed, it may not contain enough Vit A for that horse at that time.


If you google, you can find all kinds of info and people with positive results supplementing for vit a deficiancy and its link to rainrot, as well as goopy eyes and lice. 2 to 3 doses of the OTC cattle injectable given orally over feed seem to do the trick for most horses. No bathing or scab picking needed.

This is the stuff...Its cheap and goes a long way. You just squirt it over the horses feed. I give about 5 ccs to an average size horse at least once a month this time of the year (Usually November to March for my area) if they are not eating a fortified feed for prevention. For treatment of active infections, its 5 cc once a week for up to a month or so.
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.h...ae5&ccd=iop002

Also, farnamns Mare Plus is high in Vit A but the other stuff works just as good and is way less expensive per horse. http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CG8Q8wIwAA


Forum links with Vit A info and results posted

NC Horse News Message Board - Rain Rot Coincidence?
https://www.horseforum.com/horse-heal...ssibly-108205/
http://forums.horsecity.com/index.ph...topic=47094361

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Hi Trinity,

I have been trying to tell people over here, but few people seem to want to listen. Whats worse is they all have Vets that want to sell them hundreds of dollars of junk to repeatedly 'fix' it and tell them to spend hours and hours aggravating it and the horse by picking at it.

Oh Well! I've tried. All they're doing is making open sores that can actually get infected and making horses miserable by picking at their sores..
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Vitamin A helps eyes adjust to light changes and helps keep eye, skin and mucous membranes moist. It also has antioxidant properties that neutralize free radicals in the body that cause tissue and cellular damage. Vitamin A is fat-soluble which means that it is stored by the body. Too much will cause toxicity and is more harmful than too little so Vitamin A should be used with care. In humans over consumption has been linked to an increased risk of fractures.

Zinc and Copper are also needed for skin health and are far more safely fed. Check the labels on your horse feed if you feed a processed feed and your supplement if you feed any. Go for the ones that contain a higher level of zinc and copper.

Topical washing with a fungicidal shampoo will treat the condition far more rapidly than feeding Vitamin A or other minerals which will take some time to have any effect.

To date I've found Nizoral has been the most successful treatment, Iodine washes seem to have only minimal effect.

Since feeding the 'Pat Coleby mix' I've had no more trouble with rain scald/rot with my horses – they winter out uncovered and in the past had all developed rain scald at some time in the winter.

Pat Coleby Mix
500 grams Dolomite
80 grams Copper Sulphate
80 grams of milling Sulphur
80 grams of Seaweed Meal (Urea free)

Feed one teaspoon daily.
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The way I look at it Cherie is you just keep providing evidence from other people that it works for and eventually, people will try it and see it actually works. I copy paste this into everytime I see a rainrot or lice thread. I cant believe that the vets dont know this. Its such a cheap thing to try and so easy to experiment and see if it works for you. I just had a gal try it on a rescue and in 2 weeks, it was cured and gone. No washing or even brushing as she wanted to make sur eit was just the vit A and was skeptical also.

I for one THANK you for your advice all that while ago on the Vit A issue. It works like a charm and is cheap to fix and prevent once you know. No more trying to bathe horses in cold temps and spending a fortune on topicals. Just some oral Vit A and voila....no more rain rot...ever.


As for ODing horses on Vit A....I dont think its possible if you follow the directions I gave. Green grass is very high in Vit A and horses eat loads of it when its in season and dont OD that we know of or can tell. the dosage mentioned and done once a month while the horse is on hay is not enough to OD a horse. If the horse has rain rot or goopy eyes, you can be SURE he is very deficiant by that point. 5 cc once a week for about a month and then once a month to prevent till grass comes in is typically all it takes IME so far.
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post #20 of 37 Old 01-23-2012, 08:50 AM
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Vitamin A is very important so if you have a 1000 pound horse that is healthy our vet recemends 15,000 IU daily. Lactating mares need about 36,000 IU or more daily. You would have to give a horse 10 X the recemended level of Vitamin A to overdose it. The fact is, the less healthy the horse, the more vitamin A is an absolute must. Vitamin A will get rid of rain rot, weepy eyes and poor overal skin conditions. It works, it makes sense and it is not expensive.

If you are not a believer try it for 2 weeks and see if it makes a difference. Its alot less work, and you dont need to worry about picking off scabs and causing your horse a great deal of discomfort. We have had zero cases of rain rot, we feed vitamin A daily in a supplement during the winter months and as everyone knows Canada has a very cold, wet, nasty climate during the winter. It works!
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