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post #1 of 26 Old 05-26-2020, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Horse is insanely itchy.

My gelding is having trouble with being super itchy. Has big welts on his side under belly on hindquarters. Welts under belly are kinda scabby.

But his itchyness has him bitting at his belly trying to reach under himself to scratch. When I'm doing anything with him, he constantly side stepping into me wanting scratches,I do scratch him. He literally shakes with head sideways an lip stretching.

Have called vet twice now hasn't returned my call. Receptionist that answer ,say they are leaving him a note to call me. If it's like it was when I needed vaccines ,it took him two weeks to finally call me back.

So need ideas on what to do to relieve his itchyness. Things I've tried equiderma ,Benadryl spray neither have helped much. A few pictures of effected areas.
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post #2 of 26 Old 05-26-2020, 04:57 PM
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Ouch...
Some of those look like urine burns...
Does he lie down where he has peed and if in a stall he is in soaked bedding cause drainage is not good and bedding not deep enough to absorb and shield him?
A good bath of maybe something oatmeal based as those are supposed to be soothing components... ??

Do you have access to Gentocin spray?
It might help to control some of the itch and assist with healing...common for dogs hot spots given by vets.
There is also a spray called "ICX" which is given for horses suffering from sweet itch this time of the year down by me from some vets.
It works to soothe, help the heal and control the crazy itchy but it must be applied daily to help and it isn't cheap.
A injection of antihistamines would help and think fed Benadryl can help to but I don't know a dosage amount.
I'll tag @walkinthewalk and @Foxhunter cause I know both have mentioned what they have used to help their critters deal with this in the past.
Best of luck...that looks painful for the horse.
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post #3 of 26 Old 05-26-2020, 05:44 PM
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Zyrtec 10 mg per 100 pounds. Hoot gets allergies this time of year and we give him 10 tabs in his supplements for a few days. You can buy a giant bottle at Costco for super cheap.
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For most part he lives outside I do bring in when nasty weather. Stalls are big an kept clean dry. He's really neat, poops along wall pees towards back of stall. He doesn't lay in his pee spot when in.

Whatever it is wasn't there Saturday night that I saw. I rode Saturday and no welts on him hosed him off also.

I tried witch hazel on him here seems to give some relief. He's miserable trying to itch on anything an everything. Then biting at himself.

Didn't know you could give zyrtec to horses I'll have to check into that. Here's another few pictures one of his side, other of under belly.
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post #5 of 26 Old 05-26-2020, 06:50 PM
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More vitamin E in his diet might help, too.

Edit: actually, those look like hives. We've had some success at our barn with feeding children's Benadryl. They don't mind the flavour.
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As per the vet we keep the 8 ounce children's liquid in a flavor the horses like. I actually keep several. They can have one bottle without consult for hives if close to 1000 pounds. if over that they'll need more. I have a large syringe and they take it readily if needed.

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post #7 of 26 Old 05-26-2020, 07:16 PM
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I hate to this but donít give him anything orally until youíve talked to the vet ó which do you have another vet in the area that is better about calling back.

He has had an allergic reaction to something. If you donít have new hay, you havenít changed anything in his feed pan, he has either rolled in something like stinging nettle, or he has eaten something.

If you knew for sure he rolled on an ant hill or got stung by bees, or got bit by a nest of baby spiders, I might say to give him something orally. If that were one of my horses looking like that and I didnít know the cause, I would not give him any oral meds.

You might sponge him down a few times daily with a mix of cool water and apple cider vinegar to see if that helps.

If the flies are getting bad, keep him in if you can. I wouldnít even put a fly sheet on him.

Can he eat ok? He isnít having breathing issues, I hope. If you have a thermometer, take his temperature just to be safe and to have something to say to the vet.

If you have a stethoscope, listening to his heart rate would be good. Thereís a way to do that without a stethoscope but I donít know how.

I am so sorry but thatís all I got:(

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He's on 4,000 IU of vit e a day. Only thing changed. Is I added a pound of empower boost to his diet. Hay is the same as is everything else.

No flies so far,no ant hills in pasture or dry lot. His breathing is fine ,normal heart rate no fever.

Bought the empower boost on 5-19-20 so would it take 9 days, for an alergy to show up?? Nothing given orally only have done topical stuff.
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I would think a reaction to the Empower Boost would have come sooner than nine days.

Is this the PSSM horse or do I have the wrong member? If this is the PSSM horse, maybe he did have a delayed reaction to the Boost.

I guess for now, I would:

1. Wait for the hives to start going down. They should start shrinking if he rolled on something (like nettle) or got bit.

If he is eating something, the hives likely wonít disappear until culprit is removed from his diet.

That could be anything from something in the pasture, to something in one or two bales of hay (generally the hay from the edge of the field), to maybe the Empower Boost.

I would hate to think itís the Boost; I would rather believe he got hold of something in the pasture. Are your buttercups blooming? We are polluted with them down here. They can be toxic and from what Iíve read are bitter so horses stay away from them.

However, if you have him on a pretty small grazing area, he may have eaten some if there was good grass mixed in with the buttercups.

If the hives donít start reducing in size, I guess I would take the Empower away for a week to see what happens. Process of elimination has to start somewhere IF this is food related:(
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Yes it's my pssm horse. I have kept him on a forage based diet since last fall. Only thing he was getting is vit/min from horse Tech. Alfalfa cubes, Timothy pellets and grass hay. No commercial bagged feed until 5-19-20 empower boost.

He needed a little more I felt for energy plus to put a little more bloom on him.

To my knowledge no butter cups in pasture, possible I haven't seen them. For now I'll keep him off pasture see how it goes. Welts are huge yet on belly. Shoulder an side welts have gone down some.

He's so so itchy i put more Benadryl on him here. Seems to help some.
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