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post #11 of 36 Old 02-17-2015, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Well I just had a bad feeling tonight so I went out a moment ago in the dark to check the horses and found her 100% lame on her back left leg. She was fine at feeding this morning but she is now putting zero weight on the leg. This is the leg I suspected yesterday. Here are the best pics I could get in the dark tonight. I'm making some calls to see who I can out tomorrow to check it. Obviously this is a wait no longer type of situation now....
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Just to clarify because I've been getting some really rude personal messages. This horse hasn't had alone on her back in about a week and a half with the exception of one 7year old walking in circles for about 20 minutes (1 time) . She's had 1 bute tab in the last two weeks. Just want to clarify that. Thanks
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The bute will just make it worse!
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There are two things you need to do and you don't need a Vet for either one.

1) Get a thermometer if you do not already have one. Take her temperature Am and PM every day. Without seeing her walk or examining her, I suspect you could have a hoof abscess. This will usually elevate a temperature slightly as it is an infection.

2) Go out early in the morning and check the temperature of her hooves, all up and down both hind legs. You can almost always pinpoint any sore, infected or inflamed area early in the morning. I have gone out with a flashlight before dawn to check a horse's feet and legs many, many times.

A warm hoof is almost always a hoof abscess. Abscesses are probably the main reason that horses go 3 legged lame over night. They can be acute and show up as severe lameness in a day or two or can cause chronic lameness for several weeks before they decide to 'mature' and break. If she is walking with only the tip of her toe on the ground, it is usually an abscess toward the back of the hoof.

You never want to use antibiotics or Bute if you suspect a hoof abscess. These drugs only slow down the maturation of an abscess and make the horse lame for a longer period of time.

You do not want to use any counter-irritant, liniment or 'rub' before you know what is actually wrong. Sometimes it is the wrong thing to do and it always confuses the diagnosis at it also causes heat that can be mistaken for the problem when it is only the liniment creating it.

Again, I sound like a broken record, but everyone should have a good thermometer handy at all times. If a horse has anything wrong from a snotty nose to a cough to a lameness, you need to track its temperature.

If you only have one or two horses, you should know what those horses' vital signs are when they are resting and well. Know their usual temperature, heart rate and how often they normally breathe per minute. Then, if you suspect pain from colic or a sickness, you know immediately if something is really wrong. If you call a Vet, you will be able to tell him your horse's vital signs and other pertinent information like the color of his gums and how quickly pressure on his gums turns from a white spot back to pink. Know what purple gums look like. Know how to check a horse's digital pulse in his lower leg.

There is no excuse for anyone to be an uninformed horse owner and there is no reason for anyone to call a Vet without this information to give him. Knowing these things can either save a horse's life or save a $500.00 Vet bill.

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The bute will just make it worse!
I am aware. I am not buting right now. thank you
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Also, if you are getting rude personal messages, please report them to us. In the lower left hand corner of every post is an exclamation mark (!) in a square box. Hit it and a page comes up that lets you report that post. On PMs there is the same little box and ! at the top that you can use to report a private message. Cheri
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There are two things you need to do and you don't need a Vet for either one.

1) Get a thermometer if you do not already have one. Take her temperature Am and PM every day. Without seeing her walk or examining her, I suspect you could have a hoof abscess. This will usually elevate a temperature slightly as it is an infection.

2) Go out early in the morning and check the temperature of her hooves, all up and down both hind legs. You can almost always pinpoint any sore, infected or inflamed area early in the morning. I have gone out with a flashlight before dawn to check a horse's feet and legs many, many times.

A warm hoof is almost always a hoof abscess. Abscesses are probably the main reason that horses go 3 legged lame over night. They can be acute and show up as severe lameness in a day or two or can cause chronic lameness for several weeks before they decide to 'mature' and break. If she is walking with only the tip of her toe on the ground, it is usually an abscess toward the back of the hoof.

You never want to use antibiotics or Bute if you suspect a hoof abscess. These drugs only slow down the maturation of an abscess and make the horse lame for a longer period of time.

You do not want to use any counter-irritant, liniment or 'rub' before you know what is actually wrong. Sometimes it is the wrong thing to do and it always confuses the diagnosis at it also causes heat that can be mistaken for the problem when it is only the liniment creating it.

Again, I sound like a broken record, but everyone should have a good thermometer handy at all times. If a horse has anything wrong from a snotty nose to a cough to a lameness, you need to track its temperature.

If you only have one or two horses, you should know what those horses' vital signs are when they are resting and well. Know their usual temperature, heart rate and how often they normally breathe per minute. Then, if you suspect pain from colic or a sickness, you know immediately if something is really wrong. If you call a Vet, you will be able to tell him your horse's vital signs and other pertinent information like the color of his gums and how quickly pressure on his gums turns from a white spot back to pink. Know what purple gums look like. Know how to check a horse's digital pulse in his lower leg.

There is no excuse for anyone to be an uninformed horse owner and there is no reason for anyone to call a Vet without this information to give him. Knowing these things can either save a horse's life or save a $500.00 Vet bill.
Thanks Cherie, I do have a thermometer. I don't have her normal resting temp. (bad, I know, lesson learned) But I will get temp tonight and tomorrow. Her legs and hoof don't feel hot/warm but an abcess would be a best case scenario at this point. Hopefully I can get a vet of some sort out tomorrow. thanks,
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You can't tell a warm foot except very early in the morning. Very early, a horse that has just been standing around will have ice cold legs and feet, even in the summer time. So, you go out very early and you feel up and down both front legs and then you feel up and down both hind ones -- including the feet. I have almost always been able to find an abscess that way and been able to tell what part of the hoof it was in.

I have also usually found it better to let them break naturally on the hair line or at the bulb of the heel than to dig them out. They heal more quickly and you do not have a big hole to protect. If I know for sure that I have an abscess to wait on, I will usually soak it in hot Epsom Salts to help it break more quickly.

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