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post #1 of 35 Old 01-11-2020, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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How much is too much sugar for a PSSM horse?

Ice has decided his supplement isn't tasty any more. He's sifting it out of pellets an leaving it in feed pan.

Wetting feed isn't an option he won't touch it. I've been using molasses an 1/8 of a cup twice a day. He eats up supplement no issue. Supplement isn't optional it's a have to have. Has vit E 2000IU and added fat to total 40 percent. Plus added magnesium.

The sugar in an 1/8 cup of molasses is 26.8 grams. He gets this twice a day have to split serving of supp into two feeds. Less molasses doesn't get all the powder to stick to pellets.

Have tried other sweeteners that are no sugar,he only eats it for a few days. Then back to not eating supplement.

He's on a low sugar/ starch diet, tested hay below 10 percent sugar/starch. Using Timothy pellets and Timothy/Alfalfa cubes for his feed. He's not fat he's on thin lean side has gained very little weight.

He has free feed hay never out plus cubes/pellets twice a day. 2 pounds pellets 2 pounds cubes twice a day.

Recent pic. Vet gave me the ok to ride him at walk to exercise him. Footing isn't great so only walking is safe.
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Hmm. I've always wet things down a bit and my horses would eat them, except maybe for bute, my guys have always hated bute! Anyway, I can't really answer your question but the molasses made me think of a senior feed I just bought for my mare and she LOVES it.

It's Nutrena ProForce Senior:
https://www.nutrenaworld.com/product...ior-horse-feed

Normally THAT would be too much sugar for a sugar sensitive horse I would think, except I am wondering if a small amount of this (maybe a pound or less?) wouldn't actually be less sugar than the straight molasses you are using?

This stuff is really nice and molasses-y, and has beet pulp. My mare thinks it's the biggest treat ever! Oh, and I've tasted it and I even think it tastes good!

So yeah, sorry I can't be or more help. But if he likes molasses, he might really like the ProForce. It's really sticky sweet almost like a sweet feed. I don't know how that compares to what you are doing though.

I guess you've probably tried apple sauce?
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How about a mooshed up, overripe banana?
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Old worming tube...
Mix your mixture and "worm" him...
He's going to hate you but if he must have the supplements then you must do what you have to do...
Down the hatch...
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How about a mooshed up, overripe banana?

You know what's weird, my first two horses were Arabians and they would not touch a banana. I actually thought ALL horses hated bananas for about 10 years. But then I saw it listed somewhere as a favorite flavor for horse medications.......so I tried bananas with my Fox Trotters. My current mare loves them! The gelding I raised loved them too.....probably his favorite treat. His momma really didn't care for them, sometimes she would take a bite and then spit it out. It seems horses either love them or hate them!

I think bananas are high in sugar too, but how it compares to the other options I do not know.
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Could you water down the molasses a bit that way use less?
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Banana is a good idea except he doesn't like banana. Nuterna proforce senior I'd have to see how high NSC is. I'll check out the link. Thinking a few cups of it would be plenty.

When I feed tonight here I'll water down the molasses a bit. Had horse tech flavor the supplement peppermint flavor he loved it,till now. And I've got quite a bit of supplement left, before I need to re order. Was mixed up to meet his needs.

Syringing it in would take 4 or 5 syringes to get the volume of supp in him, that's needed. Especially with mixing with water so it would go through syringe. I have no empty de worming tubes currently.
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Nuterna proforce senior is 10% sugar an 8 % starch so 18 percent NSC . Not sure how much sugar/starch would be in just 2 or 3 cups of this feed. ??

He's doing really good so want to keep it this way. 😊
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What about unsweetened applesauce? Cinnamon? It makes my horses go nuts and really masks other things.
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If the molasses works, would just use it. That may be more sugar than you want him to have, but if he is a bit thin, and its so cold there, the extra sugar shouldn't affect him too much.
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