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post #1 of 10 Old 01-16-2014, 07:47 AM Thread Starter
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I need a good feed through joint supplement

So my gelding is 19 and has a 1/5 lameness in his left hind hock/stifle and a 1/5 lameness on his right front fetlock. I do plan on putting him on the pentosan shots which are equivalent to adequan. (Although I know that nothing compares to the real adequan) the vet also suggested for more support he be on a feed through supplement along with the shots. Does anyone know of a cheap supplement that will not break the bank? I've tried Cosequin and that's a bit too expensive for me now.

Also, he is on a probiotic and salt along with his ration balancer, will a feed through joint supplement be overloading him? And does anyone have any experiences with the shots? Thanks!
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So my gelding is 19 and has a 1/5 lameness in his left hind hock/stifle and a 1/5 lameness on his right front fetlock. I do plan on putting him on the pentosan shots which are equivalent to adequan. (Although I know that nothing compares to the real adequan) the vet also suggested for more support he be on a feed through supplement along with the shots. Does anyone know of a cheap supplement that will not break the bank? I've tried Cosequin and that's a bit too expensive for me now.

Also, he is on a probiotic and salt along with his ration balancer, will a feed through joint supplement be overloading him? And does anyone have any experiences with the shots? Thanks!
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Try majesty flex wafers, I've seen a totally different horse. my 23yr old gelding had arthritis in his knee ever since I put him on this I haven't had any problems in fact he is moving better than he ever has. You can order them cheap online on horse.com
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There is no such thing as a good feed through joint supplement.
The molecules involved are too large to be absorbed by the horses digestive system. They are herbivores. They do not absorb animal products like glucosamine the same way as humans. As well much "food quality" glucosamine is produced from shark fins :(

MSM has been shown to work to strengthen surrounding structures. The only other thing I would feed through is a good anti inflammatory (only on a non competing horse and do not mix buckets with any competing horses!). There are natural ones like devils claw, and then traditional NSAIDs like Aspirin. Did your vet really suggest a feed through glucosamine supplement? Vets know they don't work (at least mine does) :(

Adequan is your best bet. There is another PSGAG on the market for much less that Adequan, called Icon. Pentosan is NOT like Adequan. There is no glucosamine in the molecule. I would try Icon before Pentosan. I have not used Icon, but I know folks that do.
As well, initially, get a shot of IV Legend to get the juices flowing and to get a handle on the inflammation right away. You may never need to do another one.
As well, DO THE PSGAG SHOTS IN SERIES. Adequan, and Icon, are NOT effective when given monthly. They must be administered in a series. Go with the manufacturer recommendation. For Adequan it is 7 shots, one every 4 days. Then the horse will be good for a while! Then repeat when needed (the whole series). Monthly shots are a waste of product and your money.

JMO, even a phone call with another vet to see if your program is "standard" for your area can be a good idea. Joint care is a very developed field, although a little taboo to talk about, and science is waaaay past archaic glucosamine feed through sups which don't even work and animal cruelty is used to make the product.
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I read that you do 7 shots the first month. One every 4 days as you said. And then I was told to do one shot a month thereafter
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My equine lameness vet recommends Platinum Performance CJ. She a somewhat new-ish grad and did her residency at some top notch places in Texas. So I trust her when she tells me what supplement to use for my horses. Plus she uses it on her own horses. PPCJ is not cheap though.

However, with that said, we are also going to experiment with injections this spring on my gelding with a catching stifle issue.

I don't view the supplements as "fixing" any problem, but a good all-around supplement doesn't hurt. I take supplements for myself, so I figure my horses should have them too.

I've been quite happy with the PPCJ.

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I read that you do 7 shots the first month. One every 4 days as you said. And then I was told to do one shot a month thereafter
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Many folks do the one shot a month thereafter. They like to waste their money and tie up product. There is no therapeutic benefit to monthly shots. I know it sound like I'm from crazy town. But you get so much more bang for your buck in the series. Do only as many as you have to. Dependent on the horse a series can be "good" for a year - without wasting money on monthly shots. The time between series will still be the exact same whether you do monthlies or not.
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The company that makes Adequan advises against doing the monthly shots, you're supposed to do it in the series then not again until the horse needs it.
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I have my old guy on a combo of DC-Y and Fluid Flex and am happy with the results.
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So the series is just the 1 shot every 4 days for a month and then wait until it's needed again and do the same thing that month?
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So the series is just the 1 shot every 4 days for a month and then wait until it's needed again and do the same thing that month?
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Yes exactly!

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