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post #81 of 101 Old 09-06-2019, 01:10 AM
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Just in case you haven't tested and are considering PSSM, here's an interested story about a gal and her horse.
Something she dealt with were hoof issues and ulcers, because her horse was experiencing stress from the pain from the PSSM.
Any systemic condition causing stress to a horse can lead to digestive and hoof issues.

PSSM (PolySaccharide Storage Myopathy) ? Sage By Nature
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post #82 of 101 Old 09-06-2019, 03:18 AM
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Rambo, that's still a very lame horse in the video. Sore on both fronts, left front is worse. I'm sorry you are facing this yet again/still but there is no way that horse is sound enough to ride. The pads are making him less painful, but he certainly isn't comfortable. If your farrier is saying that is sound, he's not being honest with you. It really sucks that your horse is continually sore and you can't enjoy riding him. That is a shame, and it is heartbreaking, but that's life. Any of us who have had horses long enough have had a horse like this that continues to cost money and never really is ever 'right'. This horse has something underlying causing all this. The abscesses are a symptom, not the root problem. The problems you have keeping condition on him or alternately fighting obesity are related. His ulcers are related. His reluctance to eat is related. None of the videos you have posted with this poor guy have ever shown a completely sound horse. If you must ride, buy or borrow another horse for the autumn months and see if this guy can be made sound as a pasture pet over the winter. If not, you may have a hard choice to make. You love this horse. You have done a lot for him to try to get him healthy, but that doesn't always mean it works. 😞

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@gottatrot yes had a negative test for Lyme disease first time he was tested,then was tested again an was positive reason he was treated. I hauled to to a different vet to have him tested again do to on going issues that weren't being fixed. No haven't tested for pssm or EPM isn't an issue here no possums. He's never been tested for IR vet doesn't see the need to test for that.

His attitude is all over the place calm quiet then not so calm more uptight nervous and pacing fence,acting buddy bound. Did 3 months of doxy in that time frame had gut upsets going off feed and in general lack of appetite. Added probiotics to his diet an his appetite got better,still on an off on the eating feed some days he eats some days not.



Laminitis was due to the Lyme disease & treatment. Feet in past have been less than great do to poor farrier work,thats is now fixed with a better farrier. Looked at link you posted and read about that horse and the journey that lady went through with her mare. That sounds like my horse on many of,the problems. He's sore in hindquarters and sore in his back pretty much body sore doesn't like being groomed.


So what is the diet for a pssm horse ? I'll try going with a change of diet see if he improves. Doing yet more testing isn't in the cards ,as emergency funds set aside for horses is pretty well drained out. I'm emotional drained as well, its been a roller coaster of problems with no end in site. I have to much invested emotionally and financially to just give up on him.
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post #84 of 101 Old 09-06-2019, 01:39 PM
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Have you tried supplementing him with magnesium?
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post #85 of 101 Old 09-06-2019, 04:35 PM
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Have you tried supplementing him with magnesium?
I THINK I remember they tried him on magnesium before and didn't see improvement? I agree it could help a ton though. There are a lot of different kinds/qualities of magnesium, so could possibly need a different supplement.

Its great that you don't want to give up on him. Wish you had better vet access so you could finally get some answers.
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I've tried magnesium he ate it for a short time, tryed remission still have part of it left. Don't know if remission is a good magnesium supp or not. It's what feed store carries. Can't say it did much for him.

I fed amount directions said to feed,would have to look at supplement bucket to see what it was now. Never have fed a vitamin E supplement before,didn't think it was needed.
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I think his most recent laminitic flare was due to the Lyme, but the horse had laminitic-looking feet long before then; that wasn't just poor farrier work. I would bet he has an underlying metabolic issue of some sort causing chronic laminitis that flares with any sort of stress -- medication, hard riding, poor weather, etc. Then that discomfort contributes to stressy behavior, not wanting to eat, fence walking, etc. It becomes a vicious circle.
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This is how he was standing yesterday. Picture gives an idea on how he looks weight wise.

Today was a better day then yesterday moving better lot more comfortable.

Only difference is yesterday was stormy 3 big thunder storms rolled through. Lots of heavy rain and wind...

The recent lameness's were from abcessing on the one foot. As far as i know he's only had laminitis once. That was earlier this year.

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A horse just doesn't get laminitis and then it goes away. It is chronic and life-long. It can usually be managed (up to a point) but it's always there and all it takes is a diet change, stress, etc. for it to flare again. It's not something that ever really goes away. Once a laminitic horse, always a laminitic horse. The symptoms can come and go, but a horse that has iffy-looking feet and ongoing soundness problems that has had a laminitis flare nearly always has metabolic, chronic laminitis.

He's abscessing on one foot, but he's also lame on the other one. He's sore in both fronts in your video.
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He's much better today saw him trotting out in pasture. Was striding out like he normally does.

Came up into corral snapped a picture of him. One I posted yesterday was not a good one.

For feed he gets pasture and hay once in a while some pellets. More pasture then hay currently one bale we got is almost gone. So pasture it is till we get our winter supply of hay.

Way it looks it will be first part of November. . Hay guys busy so can't bring our hay till then. We have no way to haul it right now.

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