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post #1 of 10 Old 12-04-2014, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Mare having severe attitude issues, health related?

Sassy has been "sassy" since she was a sperm and egg, but as of late it's less Sassy and more "spawn of Satan". She is by no means a mean horse, but something has gone awry in her attitude. My mom is actually scared of her.

I moved in August, Sassy stayed behind with Rosie (23 year old) and I brought my two geldings up to live with me (Stillwater OK, 1.5 hours from home). Sassy bullied Rosie and the two geldings started getting too rough, so I switched out. Rosie stays home with Playboy, and Sassy and Dusty now share a paddock. I made the switch in October, and thats when I started noticing Sassy had very painful sides. Most horses, when they are in pain will dip their back, etc. Sassy doesn't do that, instead she pins her ears, swishes her tail, stomps, acts like she may bite. Its in her rib cage above her flank (mid back, I guess), and in the cinch area. I had her adjusted by a chiro, she was enjoying every bit of it until they worked on her ribs. I literally thought this mare was going to hurt somebody! Alas, while she certainly moved better, the ****y attitude when you touched her didn't go away, so something is still wrong. Her saddle fits perfectly, she works great from the saddle. It's like she just doesn't want you to touch her. I know she's doing it because she is uncomfortable, not because she is witchy. Several people have pointed me in the direction of ulcers, but she doesn't have a single other symptom, and everywhere I have looked, side soreness is not a symptom.

Another thing she does, as you walk around behind her when grooming, she'll pick up a back leg. She gets reprimanded every single time for it. She's not picking up a foot like she thinks you're going to clean her feet. I'm putting that as a behavioral thing I need to work out. Can't tell if it's her being snotty, or trying to move her tail onto me so I will scratch it..

Sassy isn't a hateful horse, she just seems, overly cranky? I'm not sure if maybe she could have a ovarian tumor, hormones out of whack, mineral deficiency, ulcers, or what. I do have plans to call the vet when I come back home for Christmas Break (the vet up here charged me $84 for coggins and health cert., I'm going to wait for the vet that actually knows my horse haha).

Anyone have a similar experience or know what direction I should look? All of those herbal calm-mare supplements do nothing.

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post #2 of 10 Old 12-04-2014, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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another thought, maybe it's just her.

We went to a clinic, and she was stalled in a stall where she couldn't see the horses beside her. She was okay for the first night, but the next day she was rearing, breaking buckets, working herself into a sweat just freaking out. We moved her to a pipe stall where she could see the entire grounds, and had no further issues.

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post #4 of 10 Old 12-04-2014, 09:51 PM
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that was my first thought: ulcers.

what sort of hay and grain is she eating.?
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But what I am confused about is the only symptom she has is poor attitude. No where does side soreness relate as a symptom to ulcers?

She is on bermuda/grass hay, free choice 224/7. She gets a small amount of SafeChoice (like, 1/3 of a scoop) and half a scoop of alfalfa pellet. She is a SUPER easy keeper.

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I know a horse that had ulcers, and her symptoms were sore sides, getting ****y when any pressure was applied where the leg would lay. Stomping her feet, refusing to move forward, threatening to kick when tightening the girth, no matter how slowly you tightened it. She was overall a very ****y mare, but once she moved, was put on hay not pellets, and treated for ulcers, she was MUCH better. Same person owned two other horses, one had no issues, but the pony went from being sweet, pretty easy to ride, and pretty unflappable to all of a sudden spooking at things he never had issues with before, being balky when he used to have no issues moving off leg, and not being his usual point and shoot jumping machine. Again, found out he had ulcers, and once he was also switched to hay, and fed several times a day, plus treated for ulcers, he was back to his normal self. Every horse reacts differently to pain, so I'd definitely get her checked for ulcers.
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I think you have several valid thoughts and I also think it's valid to have the vet check her.

I do think it sounds like more then ulcers, but who knows.

I'd keep an eye on her diet and just wait until break which is soon enough, maybe make an appointment now as they may be busy. Assuming it doesn't get worse or change suddenly I think that's fine.

Has she been off the farm/moved around before? I'm assuming yes.
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that was my first thought: ulcers.
me too!
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Have her checked for cystic ovaries. They can be very painful in some mares.

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But what I am confused about is the only symptom she has is poor attitude. No where does side soreness relate as a symptom to ulcers?

She is on bermuda/grass hay, free choice 224/7. She gets a small amount of SafeChoice (like, 1/3 of a scoop) and half a scoop of alfalfa pellet. She is a SUPER easy keeper.
She sounds like a worrier and yes side sensitivity and cranky attitide is a major symptom
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