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post #1 of 24 Old 06-16-2019, 01:01 AM Thread Starter
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Mystery horse issues

Hey everyone, I’m working with a horse currently who has some slightly odd symptoms and I’m curious if anything rings any bells to what potentially could be of issue.

- horse is a 4yo appy mare at 16h but she is extremely lazy. You wouldn’t ever guess her age as she is just so low energy/lazy.
- very stiff back end to the point where I can rarely pick up her back feet, especially her left
- often doesn’t fully pick up her back feet while walking
- seems to be overly tired a lot, closed her eyes while working with her today
- dull coat
- very difficult to get her to move out but she does run and buck in the pasture with other horses,

This house is the sweetest horse and really in your pocket! She’s happy, content, and doesn’t seem as if she is in any significant pain. Farrier thinks she was just too confined as a young horse and her muscles didn’t develop properly and some consistent work and stretching could help. Not sure what vet thinks but I believe basic blood tests were normal.

Thanks for anyone’s thoughts or suggestions of what else to do to maybe help her out! 🙂
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Quick question - when did she last see a vet and what did they say?
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Has she seen a vet for a lameness exam? Has she seen a chiropractic vet for checking out the rest of her body? How's her nutrition? I'd be ensuring that's well balanced, and probably giving her extra magnesium too. It doesn't sound like she's 'lazy' at all, but hurting! As you say she plays in the paddock, is this just when she's being ridden? I would not be riding her until she is all checked out OK. Aside from other reasons, I wouldn't want to cause her to associate being ridden with hurting/discomfort.

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Some horses have what I call an "Old brain" where they are very mellow seemingly right from birth. She may be this way, a calm and forgiving soul.

But dragging the toes is often a back or hip issue, and worth going to the vet to have x-rays done.

Could have some damage or irregular development of the spine or the hips. Most young horses would have no trouble at all lifting a back leg for cleaning, usually the horse lifts the hoof too high. It is old horses with stiff joints that have difficulty lifting them.

Would have a complete vet exam from an equine specialist, that will watch how the horse moves and get some spine and hip x-rays. If all checks out ok, then try chiropractic and training methods for increasing impulsion.


But with a young horse that tall, there could easily be some weakness from too fast growth.
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I don't know where you live, but I would be checking for EPM as well. We brought a horse in that drug his hind toes, acted crabby or painful when cleaning or trimming his hinds, sometimes seemed drugged, but tore around the pasture like a demon. We hauled him 2 states away to a really good lameness vet since none local could figure him out. He was finally diagnosed with EPM.
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Good, valid points and suggestions from all those above...

I would add Lyme's disease is now a problem near every state in this country today...and it is effecting our horses too.
She fits much of the criteria and where you thought sleeping, she could have sensitivity to light hence "resting" and "sleeping" look to her.
She is also only 4 so still growing, maturing and needs special care and proper nutrition to meet her bodies needs of developing correctly.

Could be so many things...and a alert care-giver is often on to something before it becomes a anything.
I would put it to the owner as it doesn't sound like she is yours that she seems off and it concerns you.
Ask them to get the vet to do a physical exam, some blood work/chemistry to make sure she is really OK so the work you ask of her is not to much for her young body.
Some 4 year olds are "old in spirit" and just steady in their disposition and ways...
Knowing for sure she is OK,.. would give you & the owners peace of mind spending a few $$ for is so worth.
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Quick question - when did she last see a vet and what did they say?
She has been UTD with everything with her vet. Vet is not overly concerned. She had exams done. Was recently in for stitches due to a kick from another horse and the vet was impressed with her. No concerns.
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Has she seen a vet for a lameness exam? Has she seen a chiropractic vet for checking out the rest of her body? How's her nutrition? I'd be ensuring that's well balanced, and probably giving her extra magnesium too. It doesn't sound like she's 'lazy' at all, but hurting! As you say she plays in the paddock, is this just when she's being ridden? I would not be riding her until she is all checked out OK. Aside from other reasons, I wouldn't want to cause her to associate being ridden with hurting/discomfort.
Yes, horse is sound. No chiropractic has been seen/done but I was thinking about looking into this. Her nutrition is good, she’s on a balanced gain, pasture, quality hay, and has access to selenium blocks. She’s kept with 5 other horses and they’re all doing great on the feeding regimen (I know she might need something differently but it’s not something major lacking - I don’t think).

She’s definitely more lazy then in pain. She doesn’t act in pain - just stiff. She’s absolutely happy and content under saddle and not, just lazy. It’s not only when she’s ridden. Yes, she plays with other horses occasionally but she still is more lazy. Vets have checked her out.
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Some horses have what I call an "Old brain" where they are very mellow seemingly right from birth. She may be this way, a calm and forgiving soul.

But dragging the toes is often a back or hip issue, and worth going to the vet to have x-rays done.

Could have some damage or irregular development of the spine or the hips. Most young horses would have no trouble at all lifting a back leg for cleaning, usually the horse lifts the hoof too high. It is old horses with stiff joints that have difficulty lifting them.

Would have a complete vet exam from an equine specialist, that will watch how the horse moves and get some spine and hip x-rays. If all checks out ok, then try chiropractic and training methods for increasing impulsion.


But with a young horse that tall, there could easily be some weakness from too fast growth.
Great! I think what all you say makes sense. She is absolutely and “old brain” “old soul” horse. Regardless, of any issues that’s absolutely her personality. I don’t think any xrays have been done, but I’m unsure- I’ll pass that along to her owner. She’s had vet exams with nothing of too much concern, but I’m unsure about xray.
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I don't know where you live, but I would be checking for EPM as well. We brought a horse in that drug his hind toes, acted crabby or painful when cleaning or trimming his hinds, sometimes seemed drugged, but tore around the pasture like a demon. We hauled him 2 states away to a really good lameness vet since none local could figure him out. He was finally diagnosed with EPM.
We’re in PNW region. I’ll look into this! She doesn’t act crappy or painful though - which is where I get confused. But I’ll check into it!
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