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post #1 of 15 Old 07-08-2020, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
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Need to change feed

I was feeding my 35 year old Cushings pony Equal Balance (chopped hay) also soaking timothy cubes and pellets. I am limited what to feed because teeth and medical.
We were fine until the hot weather came in. If he doesn't eat the mash right away it gets sour. So I am throwing it out. Timothy cubes not cheap!
Any suggestions on something else. He does get Tribute Essential K g c plus twice a day 1 1/2 cups.

The vet comes next week to draw blood for thyroid follow up. I will have that discussion then.

The problem with feeding the chopped hay, it is expensive at $25.00 a bag. We go through 1 plus bag a week. Leo the mini donkey shares also.

Any words of wisdom will be appreciated. Do not know how long I can continue to feed the chopped hay to the pony. Might need to go to something down the road that he can gum. Every once and awhile he is quidding.

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Why do you have to feed it as mash? Can you not feed dry? Because he needs to have something through out the day, not just 'meals'.
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loosie,
Do to a tooth issue of probably nearly worn gone at 35 years of age the animal is needing a mashed meal so chewing is a minimum done.


So, can you do more meals, more often and less amount per meal so the animal cleans up what is fed?
More work for you but might solve some of the issue of waste you are experiencing...
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^ive known of many old, toothless horses, but don't recall any that couldn't deal with dry - they still produce saliva, teeth or not. Therefore, thanks hlg but still not getting why mash.

At any rate, if mash is a necessity, then you'll just have to feed it little & often, so he cleans it up before it goes off, but so he doesn't go hungry between feeds.
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Certain senior feeds can replace forage completely if he gets to that point - Triple Crown Senior being one of them. You will have to feed it in more meals though, maybe before work, right when you get home, and right before you go to bed? You could always try splitting your current feeding schedule up more in order to make it work. My senior (only 22) will not eat large amounts of feed at once, he just won't. If he gets past 3 quarts of feed, he walks away and lets other have it.

Sentinel feeds can also be fed alone without forage. They are pressure-cooked previous to bagging, so apparently they soak really well. I've heard they have been lifesavers with senior, Cushing's horses.

If the mini donkey can be fed regular hay, I would split them up with just a fence, just to keep him from picking food from the old guy as well. There are some DIY's of making your own chopped hay with hedge trimmers if you haven't considered going down that route as well.
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loosie...
you feed cubes dry?
No water added for softening or expansion?
You're brave...

My guy choked on feed...
I will never chance again not making a "mash" of softening feed, cubes or pelleted food...regardless of time of the year he eats wet food.
I never want to watch that again...feeling so helpless is not something I want to experience ever again.
Besides, with the hot it makes it known to me that my horse is getting enough extra fluids.
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^Well TBH I don't know too many who feeds cubed hay. Yes, I've fed them dry without issue, but only in very small quantities, as I was given some as a sample, so fed it as treats.
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Yes, but I break them up as some brands easily "flake" like a bale of hay and those are what I buy. I also feed pellets of forage dry. For those that bolt, their feed quantities are limited or there are other measures taken to slow them down. Have I had a horse choke? Yes. It wasn't on cubes or forage pellets though.


There are some that do need water added for ease of consumption and avoidance of issues but it isn't IMO an absolute for most.
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I started feeding cubes and hay pellets dry. Cubes breakup Easley. Pellets fed dry have never been an issue.

Even when my 33 year old guy was on pellets and cubes I'd feed them dry. Made sure cubes were broken into pieces. Spread out feed in big trough he couldn't take big mouthfuls,worked fine never choked on feed. He's now passed on.

Every horse I've owned ,only does soaked feed for so long then they quit eating it. Think as long as cubes are broken into pieces ,and spread out in thin layer in a trough. Horse can't get a big mouthfuls plus feed being spread out slows them down. Worked great for my old horse who's teeth were down to gumline.
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Well, then mine has to be different I guess.
He takes such a huge bite of food and gulps it down, barely chewing...
I won't even call it bolting but it resembles it...full open mouth grab of food and you can hear him gulp it to swallow...

He has always been low man and chased off so he learned to get what he can.
Hence, he chokes because of how he eats...I would love for him to go slow and chew.
Pelleted feed, cubes, actual hay pellets, he has choked on all of them, some really bad others just stuck and I could massage it down...
So, the vet said no more dry.
I wet to sopping and he is the funniest looking with his entire face and nostrils covered in residue...my other horse will actually come lick his nose/mouth he wears enough.


So my guy is the odd-ball...
Love him just the same. And I know he gets enough water..

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