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post #1 of 46 Old 08-09-2020, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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"Off" Lumbar Area and Hindquarters

Hello, everyone. I am new to the forum.

I was wondering if you could help me determine what is wrong with my horse's lumbar area and hindquarters? I do not really know how to describe the problem other than looking "off". If you have looked at a lot of horses, you know what is "normal" and what isn't. My horse is the latter.

My horse is a rescue, so I do not know her actual age and breed. They said she was four-years-old (currently, thirteen-ish) Tennessee Walker. She has had this problem for as long as I have had her (seven/eight years).

She is currently on pasture, grass hay, and multiple different kinds of salt blocks 24/7/365. She is fed one pound (453.6 grams) of Topline-Advantage/ mixed with approximately four, eight-ounce (226.8 grams) cups of timothy pellets (I stated the volume, not the weight).

She is not getting ridden that much due to her saddle not fitting and it being too hot. I either ride bareback or just do groundwork. I live in a very hilly location so she is worked on hills almost every day. She is also in a hilled pasture.

I do not know what is wrong. Although I have not specifically asked a vet what is wrong, they never mentioned it, and she has been seen by some of the best in-state vets.

Here are the possible causes that I can think of:
- Underweight
- Under-muscled
- Conformation
- Hunter's Bump/Rump
- Old Injury
- Roachback
???

Please let me know what you think it is. If you know, how can I go about fixing it, assuming it can be fixed.

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She is standing on relatively flat ground, but she is not standing square.

Thank you.

Edit: I do not know why one picture is sideways nor know how to fix it. Sorry.
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Not possible to say with those pictures if she is not standing square.

What would help is seeing a. Idea of her being walked away - filmed directly from behind, walking back to the camera and then trotting away and back.

A picture from behind with her standing square.

I wouldn't saynshe was underweight, just about right.
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Not possible to say with those pictures if she is not standing square.

What would help is seeing a. Idea of her being walked away - filmed directly from behind, walking back to the camera and then trotting away and back.

A picture from behind with her standing square.

I wouldn't saynshe was underweight, just about right.
I will see if I can get her to stand square tomorrow.

I do not have anyone to help me film nor a camera holder, so do not hold your breath about the video(s). Also, she is some kind of gaited horse because she does not trot. I do not know much about gaited horses, so what is "normal" for them is abnormal for other horses. For example, she tends to have a very big overstride and has a little bit of a "wobble" in her hind legs, but TWH people say that can be normal.

Thanks for the note about her weight.
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Have you ever had a body worker or chiro come out to look at her? That's what I would do if I were you. If one is available where you live.
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Have you ever had a body worker or chiro come out to look at her? That's what I would do if I were you. If one is available where you live.
I was thinking about that, but I am a little hesitant. I know that getting a bad chiropractor can make things a lot worse. She is not in pain and moves fines, so I do not want to jeopardize that. I have to do some research.
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I was thinking about that, but I am a little hesitant. I know that getting a bad chiropractor can make things a lot worse. She is not in pain and moves fines, so I do not want to jeopardize that. I have to do some research.
That's true I suppose. You could always get someone out to just take a look at her, though. Without doing any work.

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1. If she is a TWH, she is far from underweight, LoL. She could actually stand to shed a few pounds, if you can stand squarely behind her and see her tummy sticking out behind her butt, she needs to shed some pounds:)

Walking Horses are very prone to metabolic issues because they are such easy keepers. She is getting to be the age where they start showing up. Thinner is better.

2. I am glad you mentioned her gait, as that answered one question.

3. In your third foto, is that a bump on her back, straight up from the flank, or a shadow? If thatís a hump, she likely has some sort of old vertebra injury and there is arthritis buildup.

Does she ever drag her hind toes at liberty or being ridden?

3.1. In foto #5 (last one) some Walking Horse bloodlines do have high rumps. Or that could be from an old sacrum injury.

4. Is she off when you ride her? Are there certain things she consistently canít do, maybe turn one direction better than the other, or has trouble going downhill but not so much uphill or vice versa?

5. If you know of a good vet who does chiropractics, that would be the person I would look to for some qualified answers.

I have Walking Horses and one has fractured his sacrum twice in his life. My questions are based on what Iíve experienced with him and also my Arab(RIP Streeter) :)

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1. If she is a TWH, she is far from underweight, LoL. She could actually stand to shed a few pounds, if you can stand squarely behind her and see her tummy sticking out behind her butt, she needs to shed some pounds:)

Walking Horses are very prone to metabolic issues because they are such easy keepers. She is getting to be the age where they start showing up. Thinner is better.

2. I am glad you mentioned her gait, as that answered one question.

3. In your third foto, is that a bump on her back, straight up from the flank, or a shadow? If thatís a hump, she likely has some sort of old vertebra injury and there is arthritis buildup.

Does she ever drag her hind toes at liberty or being ridden?

3.1. In foto #5 (last one) some Walking Horse bloodlines do have high rumps. Or that could be from an old sacrum injury.

4. Is she off when you ride her? Are there certain things she consistently canít do, maybe turn one direction better than the other, or has trouble going downhill but not so much uphill or vice versa?

5. If you know of a good vet who does chiropractics, that would be the person I would look to for some qualified answers.

I have Walking Horses and one has fractured his sacrum twice in his life. My questions are based on what Iíve experienced with him and also my Arab(RIP Streeter) :)
I will see if I can see her tummy when standing behind her.
I was thinking about changing her feed to High-Point-Grass/Hay due to the no-added-iron and fewer calories.

I do not understand about the "bump on her back, straight up from the flank, or a shadow." Her back does not smoothly tie into her hindquarters, as you can see a little dip.

She does not drag her hind toes. She tends to drag her front ones though when she is being lazy.

She seems to turn fine. I trail ride so we actually do not do a lot of turning and circles. I do not lunge her.
She seems to go up and down hills fine, I think. She goes up better than down (more fluid), but I do not know if it is because the hills are very steep and rocky so she just does not want to go down them quickly.
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I do see a bump in the 3 picture up from last pic. Horse is obese an no muscle.
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I do see a bump in the 3 picture up from last pic. Horse is obese an no muscle.
Okay, so my horse is fat.

Should I get a grazing muzzle? I cannot stall her nor can I control the hay that she gets (communal round-bale). The hay is already in a slow feed net.

I was hoping that the muscles will come later when I get a properly fitted saddle.
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