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post #11 of 17 Old 10-17-2016, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you to all for the useful information and links! Was reading articles on timothy hay and the only thing seeing was that it considered much more fibrous and less protein than some others, so couldn't figure out why that might be detrimental. Almost think my young farrier, who is very patient with the animals and seems very knowledgeable about feet, might be repeating some myths he's always heard, as also told me too much water content in the grasses this time of year could be causing the fat pads and would lead to those diseases. Wouldn't equines be similar to people in that fiber would be good and too much water would be output as urine?

Been reading a book called The Natural Horse, which talks about how incredibly horses have evolved to eat less than optimal grasses and thrive and run fast, so was thinking that timothy hay might be better than richer varieties. They don't get any supplements, as are not required to do any work, especially now that packing conditioning season is over, it's good if I even get them out for a long walk up the hill 3x a week. I'll be going with our neighbor girl to first 4H meeting this week, so maybe we'll soon be taking them out more often, so far has just been lead line for 15-20 minutes a couple times a week. She's somewhat timid and it's taking a lot for her to feel comfortable and balanced (am requiring bareback.)

The little mule has gained a bit of a belly, but I don't think either of them are obese. Maybe I'm wrong ó can people tell from the pictures attached if they look overfed?
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Find Katy Watts website.Safegrass.org or safer grass.org.She has studied and reserched this and has the answers you need.I have heard that timothy hay has more suger than alfalfa.
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post #13 of 17 Old 10-19-2016, 12:46 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you that safergrass.org is a great website with lots of info, especially liking the article called Managing Grazing, as could not have imagined that even dead winter grass covered with snow could still be harmful.
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post #14 of 17 Old 10-19-2016, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
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Pasture Management Pretty Involved

Wow! Had not realized quite how much work I was getting into with my impulsive purchase of these equines, as see that from the Katy articles a dry lot without any weeds is needed. I'll be out there this afternoon with my hoe chopping away at those big huge weeds that are growing along the sides of my "dry lot", as they grow healthy due to watering of the landscaping and pastures alongside our corral, plus all that nice manure they have. I'll have sore shoulders tomorrow.

Have already called the vet and have them coming to give me a blood work-up on the Little Horse. Turns out that at 4H last night (5 little girls in our new club, very cute) we learned will need to bring the horses to the meeting next week. After hearing that (such trouble getting out, hooking up and parking that big stock trailer back in its tiny narrow slot) and then that leader was planning for us to go to two fairs at the end of next summer, I told her was way more than I was intending and tried to back out, but she convinced me that it would be well worth our time (the little girl I took knew 2 from school who were there so she was having a good time) and I realize it will help get the pony ready for riding, should my own grand-daughter be more interested in this activity someday (she's stayed away totally since I got her bucked off the mule). This 4H will be a good way for us to know that the pony is safe for the grand-daughter, so I'm gonna do it. Sure is time intensive, this new hobby!

Anyway, that was prep for saying that the vet needed to come anyway before I take the LH out, since the previous owner did not believe in vaccinations and I want to have those done. They said they could do blood work, although since LH (12 yo) and Molly Mule (20 yo) both gallop out and race around when loosed from the dry lot, seems that there feet must feel pretty good.

Just talked to the feed store owner (was asking about enclosed stirrups, due to my great fear of feet getting caught, but he convinced me that 11 year old won't need them) and he again told me didn't think a few hours a day in our area would hurt them to be out. As the Katy article noted, is harder for the owners to put them up than on the horses, which is so true. Makes me feel so good to see them enjoy the freedom for a few hours. Gorgeous sunny day, so will risk it!
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post #15 of 17 Old 10-19-2016, 03:43 PM
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if you are worried about her weight you could always get a grazing muzzle for her...I actually have to get one for my mustang mare cause she is getting a cresty neck and pretty overweight just being on pasture and being retired so not being worked
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(was asking about enclosed stirrups, due to my great fear of feet getting caught, but he convinced me that 11 year old won't need them)
?!?!?? Why on earth not?? It is a safety precaution that I take with myself, advise of adults, not just with children. It is one accident that can happen in a flash, regardless of how correctly you might keep your feet when riding normally. I've personally known 3 accomplished riders(one a pro jockey, one an endurance rider, one my sister), to come off & get dragged. 2 of them ended up with broken necks. It is an accident which frequently leads to some very bad injuries. Or worse. And it is an accident which can be totally avoided, with closed or breakaway stirrups. Go with your gut!!!

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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THANK YOU so much for saying that about the advisability of having safer stirrups! Pretty sure I would feel better and I see on statelinetack that some breakaway stirrups are quite inexpensive, so since you mention those, I will get a pair coming right away. Just wasn't sure from looking at them how sturdy they would be or if they actually work well from a safety standpoint. The 4H leader is supposed to have lots of experience with both horse training and kids, she's just moved to our area, so will call and see if she has experience with any brands.

Also, while in there ordering, I'll get a couple grazing muzzles. So great to have the help and thoughts from everyone!
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