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post #1 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 12:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Please Help!

I have a 19 year old Appaloosa mare who has no top front teeth and sucks wind even with her cribing collar on and has sand coliced 3 times in the past 4 months even tho she gets bran every night and cilium and we can not afford to pay the vet to come out each time she colic's. We also can not keep weight on her. And a few people have told me just to put her down, some have said to give her to a horse rescue and some have said to put her on a more grassy pasture since we dont have much grass anymore. I really dont want to get rid of her but if it would be the best for her I would.

Any suggestions please???
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post #2 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 12:46 AM
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this is a tough one. but i think if you can't afford to have a vet come take care of her, you need to hand her over to a rescue. they will be able to treat her, get her weight up and find a good home for her. someone that can help keep her on the right track. colic is serious, and scares the crap out of me. and i would never try to treat it myself. i know it's a hard fact to face, but i think that would be the best thing for her, no matter how hard it is for you.

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post #3 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 09:33 AM
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There are $ thresholds that all of us must look at in any operation and say - This much we can do - but no more! You cannot mortage your family's home for a $500 horse (I have no idea what your animal is worth and that is not the point) You should not feel guilty for saying I can put $1000 in medical bills in my animal per year - but no more! The person who can put $5000 per year can easily look down at the person who's budget is $1000 and sneer at them and talk about how poorly they treat their animals, but what if $5000 doesn't cover the bill. What if the animal needs $25,000. The the $5000 budget person must be the poor sap who cannot take proper care of their animal. But where do we draw the line, $100,000 or $250,000. What is the proper amount of money a person should spend? I guarentee you that most "horse rescues" are going to operate on the same type principal.
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post #4 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 01:03 PM
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How do you know that all 3 colics were caused by sand? What is her normal diet like --type of feed and amount fed by weight? Why are you feeding bran when it's been proven that it has no laxative effect and doesn't help move sand through the gut but does end up messing up the balance of the diet? Is she kept in a stall, paddock or pasture?

Cribbing and reoccuring colic are both signs of possible gastric ulcers.

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post #5 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 01:45 PM
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I have the same question as Ryle. Did your vet say it was sand colic? Did he show you how much sand was in the manure. Also agree bran does nothing for a horse except upset the phor/CA ratio's.

A product like Sand Clear if your vet agrees is going to work better.

If she has coliced 3 times in 4 months I would be taking a good hard look at my feeding regime and her water consumption. Where is she fed, on the ground? If it's sandy put down a rubber stall mat and feed her on that, to cut down on the sand intake.

I understand how vet bills can add up, we have a $5000 QH that had a $10,000 colic surgery a few years back. Production Acres is right, not everyone can afford what it's going to cost and there's no shame in that. We can only do what we can do.

If it were me, I would be having a heart to heart with my vet and get all the information I could as to what should be done. Scoping for ulcers, change in diet, deworming, change of housing conditions or yes putting her down. It's very hard to make a decision if you don't have all the facts.

Once you have all the facts and figures (vet costs) then you can make an informed decision.
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post #6 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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The vet came out the fisrt time and showed me how much sand was in her stool and i have checked this everytime, I am feeding bran because that is what the vet told me to do, I have tried sand clear but I was told that cilium is much more effective, she is fed in her stall out of a feeder with a rubber mat already down, she is in the pasture during the day and she is fed one scoop of equine sr. morning and night.
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post #7 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 02:42 PM
 
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There are $ thresholds that all of us must look at in any operation and say - This much we can do - but no more! You cannot mortage your family's home for a $500 horse (I have no idea what your animal is worth and that is not the point) You should not feel guilty for saying I can put $1000 in medical bills in my animal per year - but no more! The person who can put $5000 per year can easily look down at the person who's budget is $1000 and sneer at them and talk about how poorly they treat their animals, but what if $5000 doesn't cover the bill. What if the animal needs $25,000. The the $5000 budget person must be the poor sap who cannot take proper care of their animal. But where do we draw the line, $100,000 or $250,000. What is the proper amount of money a person should spend? I guarentee you that most "horse rescues" are going to operate on the same type principal.
Couldn't have said it better myself. When it comes to our animals we have set this kind of limit. Our human family comes first as painful as it is.
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post #8 of 8 Old 10-14-2009, 04:24 PM
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I am feeding bran because that is what the vet told me to do,
Then I would be looking for a new vet. Seriously you would have to feeding pounds of the stuff before it would make a difference and then your going to have major problems with her ratios.

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I have tried sand clear but I was told that cilium is much more effective
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The active ingredient in Sand Clear is Psyllium Husk.

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she is in the pasture during the day and she is fed one scoop of equine sr. morning and night.
You indicated that there isn't much grass left in your pasture, so how much hay are you feeding per day?
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